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How Parents and Recruiting Has Changed Radically Since I Started NUC Sports

How Parents and Recruiting Has Changed Radically Since I Started NUC Sports

I wanted to write this because i have found it interesting since starting NUC Sports in 2005 how the miseducation of the recruiting process and the lack of realistic expectations of parents have changed the landscape in how everyone handles recruiting.


NUC Athletes at the Top Prospect Camp at OU. Leon Mcquay USC, Desmond Jackson Texas, Bronson Irwin oklahoma, Greyson Lambert Georgia, and many other stars in this picture

In 2005 when we started NUC sports which was originally National Underclassmen Combine, with one event in New Jersey, the idea was to give underclassmen the opportunity to test and get their information into college coaches hands. At that time only us and Nike was really doing it and when the information got to the colleges. They weren’t bombarded by so much other nonsense that they were able to read it. Parents at that time were looking for way to get their son an opportunity and most were willing to learn as to what they had to do get that opportunity. Athletes like Tyrod Taylor, Joe Haden, Chazz Cervino, Carlo Calabrese and many other participated in that camp and thrived.


As we expanded and grew we were lucky in that only a few competitors grew with us and as we became successful, we partnered with groups like NCSA and Rivals and others that also created that opportunity. Through 2012, I saw not just event growth but also parents learning about the process. Yes, some were unrealistic but most were eager to learn. Then something radically changed in 2012 into 2013 that changed that understanding forever.


7v7 tourney from adidas


As we continued to grow in 2014, 7v7 was taking off, we ran 7v7 events, heck I even had my own club, but i saw something that wasn’t true about 7v7 that bothered me. I have been a football coach since 2001 and 7v7 was always a part of our high school summer and big part of improving and even getting noticed when we went onto college campuses, but….. 7v7 in the club event standpoint took off and there are ZERO college coaches at these events and there are ZERO evaluations being done.

Ok, i get it they claim to video some of them and maybe a few do, but I have never seen a camera on my team and I have been going for years, soooooo….. This creates parents THINKING there son is getting looked at and nothing is happening. They go to FREE camps with THOUSANDS of athletes and only the known athletes get looked at. THIS IS A PROBLEM! I think camps, combines and 7v7 are great to develop the athlete and help them learn to compete. It’s not the 7v7’s that are the problem but the messaging from it.


The problem is the parents THINK they are gonna get looked at from that! Absolutely not! A good friend of mine has a so that is a 20 offer athlete and he would always ask me, when will he get stars, what does he have to do to get stars and I would tell him….ONCE HE HAS OFFERS, HE WILL HAVE STARS.

Rivals, 247 sports and others are great sites, but they are REPORTING THE NEWS, not creating news. When an athletes gets offered then they really get interested. Parents think it is the other way around, it is not.


Recruiting services that over promise that an athlete will get recruited event though the colleges just hit delete or block their server. You must have someone physically reaching out for the athlete and not from a server. The understanding of what it takes to get recruited in todays era of social media creates more misunderstanding than ever. Athletes see other athletes on twitter getting offers and thinks that should be them.

The number of athletes competing to get recruited is higher than ever but the number of SCHOLARSHIP AVAILABLE are the same or even less than in the past. This is important to understand in all of FBS there is 85 scholarships available per team. There are 128 Teams in FBS and 124 Teams in FCS. FCS has 63 scholarships available per team and more than 1/3 of those teams dont offer the full amount.

So what does that mean?? that means that since there are 1,085,772 football players in high school in 14,000 high schools and there are only 2720 FBS schools, the likelihood of going to FBS is is almost exactly 1% and the likelihood of going FCS or FBS is somewhere between 1.5% and 1.7% on a scholarship depending on the number of FCS schools offering full scholarships. In each grade in high school there is approximately 271,443 football players…..So what does this all mean.


This equals a problem, on social media athletes think bombarding the college head coach with links is the answer and parents think that their high school coach is to blame or they went to the wrong event or even worse, THE CAMP HAD THEIR FAVORITES. This is all nonsense, when the best player is out there people notice him.

When colleges and evaluators are looking at athletes, they are looking for SUPERIOR SKILLS, POTENTIAL, UPSIDE, HEIGHT, SPEED, FREAK ATHLETICISM. I am forever inundated with parents claiming there son had a great day or he caught every ball or he worked the hardest, when the truth is in order for your son to get out there he must truly be the BEST!

College coaches want to win, high school coaches want to win and recruiting evaluators want to find the best. Everyone gets success from that, so there is no such thing as favoritism, there is GOOD and NOT AS GOOD or EXCEPTIONAL and NOT EXCEPTIONAL.


Everyone that has a camp is doing it for a reason, FREE IS NEVER FREE. Nike does it for their brand to sell more gear and shoes, Under Armour the same, to sell more memberships and get more athletes names to sell memberships to, FBU charges literally for the training, NUC we charge for the competition and the stats so colleges get them FREE, and others have there reasons, but know one thing.

If Under Armour doesn’t have their camp for FREE then then don’t sell more shoes, and if Rivals doesn’t get your info they cant sell you a membership, so on and so on, so make sure you go for the reasons that can help you in your process, not just for the gear. Free gear is nice but at the end the day you become a lead to sell the shoes down the road for $150.00 and the Christmas T-shirt for $40.00, so utilize the process to help you succeed in getting better.


The parents that tell other parents to go to event because their son is going is foolish and the parent who knows the athletes final objective is the genius. So many parents have no idea what they are doing, don’t do any research and expect radical results without investing in the process.

How can your son get his name out there by going to only one event and then giving up. How can your son go to one college camp and think he will get recruited. This is not magic, this is a process. You and your son must be diligent and forward moving all the time. You cant get caught up in disappointment and ego, but focus on what is the future and next steps to create that opportunity.


First off athletes should be going to camps, combines, 7v7 and such to not just get evaluated but to get better, know where they stand and find out where they have to go. The athletes that take that approach always get better and the parents that understand that do not lose their mind, when their son doesn’t get award or even paid attention to. Just go out and compete, if know one talks to you, then that tells you something!! YOU MUST GET BETTER!! If you don’t get recognized then you MUST GET BETTER!! The faster that athletes understand that and the faster that parents do the better off their son is.

I love to tell this anecdotal story. I was 6’1, 218 pounds in high school and was the State Small School Indoor High Hurdle Champ, I ran 14.4 in the high hurdles, ran an 11.0 100 meters, and ran 54.7 in the 400 IH and a 21 foot long jumper. As football player I had excellent statistics and was a RB and Safety in high school. I could catch, run, block, heck even throw, play defense and was fast as hell and I went on scholarship to UCONN which was D1aa or FCS not FBS. Next time your athlete believe he is D1, find out does he have the SPEED and SIZE to match, their is the rare Ryan Switzer (who was an NUC alum as well) who was undersized, but they always are beyond exceptionally quick or fast when they are undersized. So….

Keep improving, keep getting better, keep reaching out to schools and get real feedback to the level you may belong at and take advantage of the opportunity to get better. Parents, let your son compete, let him get better, and don’t worry about the nonsense of what someone has verse what you have but find out what can be done to get your son better, find out where he can play in college and for goodness sake, just go out and compete, get better, train and repeat that cycle over and over again, and you will get where you want to go!


David Schuman

NUC Sports

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To Do or Not To Do in Recruiting In this article, I am going to discuss ways to get recruited and ways to eliminate yourself from getting recruited. I am often dumbstruck by the lack of tact and lack of awareness that many athletes and parents have on how to get recruited, so i feel […]

To Do or Not To Do in Recruiting In this article, I am going to discuss ways to get recruited and ways to eliminate yourself from getting recruited. I am often dumbstruck by the lack of tact and lack of awareness that many athletes and parents have on how to get recruited, so i feel […]
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The 5 Straight Truths About Getting Recruited For College Football & Sports

The 5 Straight Truths About Getting Recruited For College Football & Sports

NUC Sports camps is one way to compete

I want to go through today, something real important, I think in the recruiting space, that parents really need to understand, and that is the difference between caring about how your son gets recruited, and their performance, and worrying about what other people think, or find you, or how they found your son, and all those kind of things, that mean absolutely nothing to do with recruiting. My name is David Schuman; welcome to my podcast, today it is critical for parents to understand not just a recruiting process, but really to investigate.

Okay, how they can get their son recruited, so many times parents come to me and ask, how do I get started, what should I do, how do I find the information necessary? first of all; the first step is to write down what you want to accomplish, because if you and your son or daughter don’t write down what you want to accomplish in the recruiting process, and where you want to go, and how you want to go about doing it, you’re nowhere.


You have to know what your goal, and what you’re looking to accomplish, and then look at your own process as far as training, educationally, performance wise, and find out what that path is. Wishful thinking does not help you in recruiting, wishful thinking does not help you, the process of going about and doing, and making things happen. So, let’s start at the beginning, at the start.

Number One: you must have a plan; you must understand where you want to go, what you want to accomplish, every single athlete in the country wants to get an athletic scholarship. So, let’s just take that off the table, because there’s almost no athletes that have ever gone in every single event that I’ve run since 19 — since 2004, every single athlete when I’ve asked, who wants to go and play Division 1?

I kid you not, 99 out of a 100 hands will go up, when I ask, how many guys want to get athletic scholarship 99 out of 100 hands go up? So, let’s take off the fact that you want to be a division 1 athlete that your son wants to be in division 1 athlete, completely off the table, as what you’re trying to accomplish, because everyone, that’s their goal in athletics.

Now, let’s figure out, how do you get there, how do you get to get a division 1 scholarship? Training: Number One; you must develop your skill sets to an elite level. Number Two: Assessment; you must understand how good you actually are, step out of the town that you live in, and go outside, and compete against others. One of the things that I hear all the time, my son is the best athlete on his team, who cares? That doesn’t mean anything to a college coach.

There are over a million football players in the country, are you in the top twenty five hundred in your class? Because that’s what it takes to get a division 1 scholarship. Are you in the top twenty five hundred in your class? Out of the 10,000 schools, high schools playing football, or in your sport, 10,000 schools; let’s say there’s 20, let’s say there’s 25 seniors on average on a team. That’s 250,000 football players, take 10% of that that would be 25,000, take 10% of that, which is 1%, that’s 2,500.

So, you must be the 99 percentile, to give you an understanding of how — what that is. Okay, the 99th percentile is; when you take a test, okay and there’s a hundred people in the class that means that you were number one, or number two. number one or number two, if there’s 25 seniors on your team on average, if you couple four teams together; one, two, three, four, pick the four competitors that you have, that you go against, is your son, or daughter, athletically; the top one or two of those hundred players?

Now, you start to understand what it takes to get a division 1 scholarship. So, in order to be that good, you have to be blessed with certain gifts. Number One; a lot of times, a football a tight size, with athletic ability, strength, speed. Okay, then you have to be blessed in developing the skill sets that you have to the maximal ability, to the maximal ability, that is not you — can’t be a part-time player, that means you’re full-time player, and that doesn’t mean you’ll play other sports, that means you’re full-time player committed to the success of doing what you have to do to be the best, and a lot of times, that is playing other sports; like track and field is such a correlation to football.

I don’t understand why more kids don’t run track of field, if I was a college coach, and there was a skill athlete, and he didn’t have a 100 meter dash time, I wouldn’t even waste my time recruiting them, because I don’t know how fast he is, but I guess in today’s day and age that’s changed a little bit, but to me there’s no better proof as far as how good you are, as how fast you are. So, how committed are you to that process, how much are you working every day, academically; are you working every day to be the best student that you possibly can, are you working every day on developing a better SAT-ACT score, are you working every day on being a better person?

Those are things that are part of the process, to get your skill sets to the level of being Division 1 athlete. So, that part you have to have that commitment on, the next thing is, where do you go find the opportunity to compete against other athletes? Obviously, one is in season, no doubt about it, in season you play against people in your league, in your town. That’s not enough, you need to go, and compete, and other showcases, camps, combines, events.

To compete against others, to pair yourself against others, and then to learn from others, and what they do well, and what you do well. That very, very important, just go out and compete, you gotta do that, you got to go to college, you gotta go out and compete. The next thing which is so critical, and people missed the boat on this; you have to do the research, the diligence, to find out the schools that you can play, and that means, by reaching out, and you can hire services to do it, but that should be a complementary part of what you are doing.

You probably don’t have enough money to spend, to hire someone full-time to go and do the recruiting for your son or daughter, even if you’re paying them a few thousand dollars a month, you still have a ton of work that you have to do, because you have — are the one that goes to college, the son or daughter is the one that goes to college, and that person only, can find out, what school is the right fit for them. So, they’ve got to do the research, they’ve got to follow up, if someone else is reaching out, they’ve got to follow up, they’ve got to find out, they’ve got to go and talk to the schools, they’ve got to build the relationships necessary in order to get recruited, and it is a process.

So, what happens is, people get overwhelmed, they think I don’t know where to start, I don’t know what to do, I don’t know how to begin, I can’t figure out how to do something, and they get paralyzed by their inability to know what to do, because there’s so many things that they feel they have to do, and I’m gonna give you some simple things with respect to training, and commitment, and making sure that you want to do everything you need to do, you need to put down.

Number One; the sports that you want to play besides let’s say football, if you’re going to run track-and-field, you put football on track, then you put down, and this is all written down in columns, you’re gonna play football, you’re gonna play track. Okay, you’re gonna do strength and conditioning, and you’re gonna do speed, and now you have four columns, and then you’re gonna write three things very simply, that you’re gonna do each week, to make the most out of those areas.

for football; here are the three things I’m going to do, I’m going to lift weights, I’m going to do my core lifts twice a week, I’m going to run eight one hundreds, I’m going to catch 50 balls as a receiver twice a week, and you’re gonna put those three things down that you have to do, and then you’re gonna have that in track, and let’s say and then you’re gonna have that for strength training, and you have that for speed, you’ll see they’re things that cross over, and those things that cross over, help you knock off one of the things that you have to do.

So, now you’re looking — you really don’t have to do 12 things, you might be doing six or seven things that cross over to your four areas, that’s critical. Then, you go and say academically, what do I have to do? You write down your three things; improved SAT-ACT score, what do I have to do? Here are my three things. Socially; what do I have to do? I got to make sure I’m home on time. So, I can wake up early to do my work each day, I’m focused, I stay away from alcohol, drugs, any of those kind of things. All those things take you off, if you participate, and I’m not saying you can’t be a kid, but if you participate in illicit activity, and you participate in things that are detrimental to where your goal is, that takes you a step back.

So, you write those things down across academic SAT-ACT testing wise, and then social, and you see what crosses over, and you have your three tasks in each thing that you’re doing, in your process, and then you write down: competition; here are the things that you’re gonna do, the five things that you’re gonna go to do to compete, here’s the — I’m gonna go to three events of this, and I’m gonna go to two events of that, I’m gonna go to NUC Sports combine, and showcase there’s my shameless plug. I’m gonna go to Nike camp, I’m gonna go to University of Georgia’s football camp.

Okay, and you have your competition that is outside of what you do, then you have your internal competition. So, you have your outside competition, then your internal competition, which means in your main sport, how are you gonna compete there, what are you gonna do to be better? You can list some goals in there, and then what’s really important. Okay! So, we talked about that, and then your final area is: Recruiting, and in recruiting, you may have to have subsections of it, but you have to have outbound, which is you reaching out inbound, people reaching out to you prospecting.

How are you reaching out to them, how are you doing it, and what are you doing? And then research, have your research what schools you like, you need to have three areas of each there, and then the great thing is, you take those pieces of paper, and you put them on your wall, on your wall. If you need to put it in your phone, in your phone, what I love about putting things on your walls is, it’s a constant reminder. when you have a constant reminder of what you have to do, there’s no way you can avoid it, when you see what it is that you’re supposed to be doing, and if you don’t do it, then you are judged by that paper that’s staring right back at you, and when you’re judged by that paper staring right back at you, and you have to figure out things to go out, and make yourself better.

Every single day, you’re held accountable by what you do, we put those things on your wall, you put them in your phone, you make them into Instagram posts, if that has to help you remind it, you post them on your Snapchat, whatever you got to do to remind yourself over and over again, of what you’re getting done, and if you follow that, you can start to get the process down. Now, when it comes to recruiting, instead of being overwhelmed, you develop that plan, you develop those tasks, and you stay diligent on it. You stay diligent on the tasks, when you have your highlight film, you make sure you research and find, every single school that you’re interested in, and send those guys your information.

Tweet, DM, I’m gonna give you a quick tip, it’s the easiest thing, direct message via Instagram, and via Twitter, assistant coaches at the schools you’re interested in, with this important information; your height, your weight, your name, the graduating class that you’re from, your estimated [Unclear 15:26], and the school you go to, the position you’re in, the position you play, your GPA, your SAT-ACT score. you send that with your highlight link, and that in your direct messenger, and your college coaches, those college coaches have the information that they could start to move on, and I can tell you this, if this is the truth, if you’re a Division 1, if you want to be a division 1 scholarship athlete, and you play the tight end position, and use text my name is John Smith, I’m six foot six, 220 pounds, I run the four eight forty, and I ran it at the head UC combines, I go to River Ridge High School in Maryland, and I have an ACT score of twenty six, and you send that to a coach with your highlight link.

You can bet your bottom dollar, if you do that to fifty schools, your process is going to begin, because when a coach sees that you have certain height requirements, certain speed requirements, they are what we call triggers, and triggers tell the coach, or the recruiting coordinator that this guy could be a prospect based off of certain parameters. Now, what you might ask is, you may say: Oh! Whoa, I’m shorter. Well, if you’re shorter then speed becomes a premium in football. Okay! Well, I’m short and I’m not that fast. Well, then scholarship level Division 1 may not be where you’re gonna go.

So, then retarget the places, and research the schools that have players most similar to you, and then target them, that’s important. Target those schools, and when you’re able to do that, you really can begin to improve your process, and really, really start to generate recruiting. So, to recap; it’s important that you have a training process, a competition process, you are committed to what you’re doing on all levels, you understand what schools you’re interested in, and what categories you fit into from a recruiting standpoint, and you’ve done the research on those schools, and then you’re going out, and competing on the outside, not just in your high school, but going out and competing.

Those will really, really help you improve your recruiting process. If you don’t do those things, and so many high school coaches, and I get it, I’m a high school coach myself. they worry about things like injury, and I get that, by going out to ops outside competitions, but I’m never gonna put a kid in a box, I’m never gonna put a kid in the box, because that becomes my own selfish interest, when a coach says don’t go out and compete, because he doesn’t want you to possibly get hurt, that is his own selfish interest. If you choose that, you don’t want to go and compete outside, if you choose that, you don’t want to do it, that’s your choice, but if you think you need to compete outside to get better, or to go and get seen, you need to do it.

Now, where I do agree with coaches is, if you’re a guy that doesn’t do anything in the offseason, and then you want to go and compete in the outside, and think that that’s going to help you, it’s not. that’s why it’s part of the total package, and a lot of coaches might get upset by that, but coaches who don’t allow their athletes to have the opportunity to get recruited are flat-out wrong, flat-out wrong. It’s selfish to do that, the key is to make sure athletes are prepared, understand the best places to go, have the correct information, so they can make the right decisions. the limiting your athlete for your own selfish interest, because you want to win a championship, we all want to win championships, but overall, the best thing is to do what’s best for the kid, and if you could find the best possible situation, and he gets to go to a college, that he wouldn’t normally got into.

Then I guarantee the coaches will be very, very happy, because it helps their program, it’s important to take control of your recruiting process. it’s important to work with your coaches to help you with that process, and to figure out how to do that, and if a coach is resistant to it, you have to figure out how from that standpoint, to go and get yourself recruited, and get yourself out there, and you could do some very, very fundamental things, by reaching out to help you with that process.

I hope this is very helpful for you athletes, it’s important for you to go out and get your name out there, it’s important for you to do things that are necessary, work with your coaches to help you with that process, work with outside people that can help you with that process, if they know what they’re doing, and I wish you the very best. We’ll talk to you soon.

by David Schuman @nucfootball on twitter @nuc_football on instagram

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How is your resume looking? Yes, your resume!

Coach’s Corner

Weekly Recruiting Thoughts from Legendary Recruiting Coordinator Bob Chmiel


How is your resume looking? Yes, your resume!


You may believe the term “resume’ is a long way off in your life. However, you are about to apply for a position with a large “company” – that company being a university and, more specifically, one of its athletic programs. Your body of work up to this point is, in fact, your resume. It shapes a school’s opinion of you as an applicant, and it shapes a coach’s opinion of you as a recruit. When you are accepted into a school or an athletic program, people are making a long-term investment in you. Your resume determines their willingness to make that investment.


So what goes on your resume? A few of the items are obvious: your transcript, your test scores, your highlight footage. These aspects of your resume are critically important. Visit your class counselor and make sure everything is in perfect order sooner rather than later, as it’s much easier to fix problems if you catch them early. When a school asks for your transcript, you want to be able to get it to them quickly. This makes all the difference during the recruiting process, as those who have their acts together move up to the front of the recruiting line.


Your highlight tapes – while not indicative of your entire skill set – should prove that you possess the ability to play at the level of a given school. A highlight video will not earn you a scholarship, but if it’s made correctly, it may just convince coaches to come see you in person. At that point, it’s up to you to close the deal on the court or the field.


Finally, your resume gives decision makers in admissions departments or athletic programs a snapshot of who you are as a person. Colleges and universities want well-rounded individuals who do more than play sports. They want people who have had experiences outside of the classroom and off playing field. They want people who show character and concern for others in their community. Put differently, schools are looking for young men and women who can bring the “total package” to their campuses. Think about it: how do you represent yourself as that type of candidate? Do you volunteer at a homeless shelter, or maybe a veterans hospital? Do you belong to service clubs at your school? Do you participate in groups that have an emphasis on a particular subject matter at your school? Or, even better, have you taken the initiative and started a club of your own? Test scores and grades are important, but it’s a fact that well-rounded individuals are often granted admission over individuals who simply have good grades.


If you excel on the field/court and in the classroom, you’re on the right track. But if you look for opportunities to excel in other areas in which you are passionate, it will make all the difference on your resume, and you will have a tremendous opportunity to get to where you want to be.

–       Coach Bob Chmiel


About Coach Chmiel

Bob Chmiel is one of the most respected Recruiting Coordinators in the history of college football, having held the position at Northern Illinois University, Northwestern University, the University of Michigan, and the University of Notre Dame. During his illustrious career, his teams appeared in fourteen college bowl games (including six Rose Bowls). He has over twenty-five years of experience working with football recruiting, and now, he serves as Dark Horse Sports Recruiting’s Director of Football Recruiting. For more information on Coach Chmiel, visit

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Coach Bob Chmiel Recruiting Tips and Advice – From Dark Horse Recruiting


About Coach Chmiel

Bob Chmiel is one of the most respected Recruiting Coordinators in the history of college football, having held the position at Northern Illinois University, Northwestern University, the University of Michigan, and the University of Notre Dame. During his illustrious career, his teams appeared in fourteen college bowl games (including six Rose Bowls). He has over twenty-five years of experience working with football recruiting, and now, he serves as Dark Horse Sports Recruiting’s Director of Football Recruiting. For more information on Coach Chmiel, visit

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Podcasts-Coach Schuman Recruiting Seminars

Episode 10: The Gameplan: What does the star system and camp system mean and how do you get stars?

Episode 9: The Gameplan: How do you know you are ready to be recruited and what to do when you are

Episode 8: The Gameplan: Interview with Michigan Football Coach and Special Teams Coordinator Chris Partridge

Episode 7: Live Interview with Around The Horn, talking camps and recruiting.

Episode 6: Its Up To You To Get Yourself Recruited-No Time For Excuses

Episode 5: How to maximize your development on the field -Competing and not complaining

Episode 4: 10X Your Football Recruiting Right Now

Episode 3: David Schuman Interviewed by Season for Life Podcast by DJ SixSmith

Episode 2: #AskCoachSchu Live Football Recruiting Question and Answer

Episode 1: Calling the College Coach and Introducing Yourself

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