College Football Podcast Talking Transfer Portal and More
58 min readCollege Football Podcast Talking Transfer Portal and More with Coach Schuman
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All right we're back New Year we're also Live on Insta as Well which is great let me See yeah there we go okay hold on I had Echo it's a huge headache to go and pull It down and then putting it up is not Hard putting it down and removing it From the areas I think I still think I Have the podcast listed on some Facebook Sites so I'm trying to was trying to Pull it down and I couldn't get all of Them down but it is what it is um we we We did a u-turn here and we're we're Ready to roll uh little college Football uh there's a lot going first of All I'm curious did you see the Cat Williams uh podcast with at Club sh Shay I did not you should watch that you Should watch the highlights at least It's wild do you do you know do you know The comedian Cat Williams no you don't Know who he is okay then you should you Should watch it it's pretty wild it was Pretty wild with uh Shannon sharp oh sh Well Shannon sharp man he's a trip yeah It's CL Club sh you should see this Podcast it's got it's got in 48 hours 11.5 million Views they must have said some Interesting things oh no it's I'm Telling you it's oh this guy Cat Williams who's like a a Comedian throws so many people under the Bus it's CRA in regards to in regards to
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63-3 uh ugly missing 25 players right Either either declared or either Declared for the draft either opted out Or hurt or portal um And he talks about how the NCA Like they got they and now supposedly Dao Sweeney went on something and talked About the same thing because he's the Opposite and he doesn't really use the Transfer portal no he's spoken out Against it like a lot and then a few of The code Nick Nick samon obviously he's Touched on this stuff so it it's it's Going to be interesting the transfer Portal and I did a I did a podcast on it In uh not well I did like a webinar on It and a lot of parents like reached out About it um clueless that's because They're clueless they don't know not a They not the the transfer athletes know What's up yeah because they've done Their research they've done their Homework they kind they're it's a risk It's a risk obviously and of Course plus you're a top tier guy but uh But the they they understand the process A little better the high school athletes Don't understand no CL what's going on At all and the parents even and they and They're they admit it too you know oh 100% they they don't understand like how Am I and and I could say like I'm just Saying like hey you got to go at this The best way you can uh and and Market
The athlete and all those kind of things But um you may do everything that you Think is right and you may not get where You think your child could be let's take The rosecolor glasses off let's say Before he would have been a uh a group Of five FBS school he may fall to FCS he Maybe before he was in FCS he may fall You2 and has it could be it could have Nothing to do with anybody what what They doing but you have to explore all Your resources because if you don't it's Much harder now and like well why is it Harder I'm like well Simple it's numb I know who Deon Sanders Is right yeah they're like yes well he's Taking four or five kids high school Kids period and the only on taking are Literally trying to get a four or five Star guys and if he doesn't get those He's going to transfer portal for Everybody else yep I watched his uh the Documentary that he's been releasing Every week on uh Amazon Prime the latest Episode you know he's in there and he's Talking about like look unless you know Even taking transfers right like he Doesn't want some trans ER that's been Sitting on the bench he wants a transfer That's played at least 500 snaps at Their previous school was a starter if Not a big name like so even that in Itself it's not just like hey I'm taking Whoever in the transfer portal like no
I'm taking guys that can come in and Play right now and like you were saying I think the you know guys can do Everything right in the recruiting Process right they can go to camps they Can go to show they can do everything That they're supposed to do talk to Coaches do all the right way and they're Still not going to get it and that's Just kind of what we're living in right Now and this is a tough part this is a Thing that people have to understand and I Think it it's critical so in the past People thought you could find me all Right four and five stars yeah like look We do we we write up five star like yes You know five stars they are found okay We get it they're the guy and they're Not the guy that rushed for a thousand Yards in your season they're the guy That ran for 2500 yards 3,000 yards They're the lineman that's 67 okay so to get a perspective on what Level there's plenty of division one Players that Aren't they're all freaks but they're Not mega mega mega freak out right So the four and five stars they don't Have to worry about that everybody else Really has to optimize and that's the Key word how they do things right like You want to go to as many things you can But like you know you don't have to uh
Travel the country worldwide to do it You have to pick the right resources to Do it and that's I think the thing I I Mean like with with the stuff that we're Doing uh what I'm blown away at is how Successful it is because and it really Has to do with the people that are Involved in helping and now there there Are other people like us but the people That are involved in helping with the Process and that's a a key element to it Because if You're someone looking to get out there I've talked to so many parents that have Spent money in you know and the guy's Like yeah he worked for XYZ company you Know he he played college ball he's just Out of college 24 I'm like how is he Gonna help he's 24 years old how is he Gonna help is is wide receiver coach Okay maybe that'll work than him like You know like other than him having like A buddy on a staff or something or Somebody that just played whatever like What are these guys like what they bring To the table right like what do these Bring what do they bring to the table And like hey I'm I can help you what Does that mean you know what I'm saying Like it's Just I think you need to leverage Everything you can but I think you and Use those resources but that can't Mass Resources leverage ma Mass massre
Resources people who can talk to a lot That aren't just going to be able to Contact one they don't need to know one Person yeah your neighbor who knows one Guy is not GNA help you like oh I know Somebody what happens when he calls the One Guy yeah I know a guy in Alabama okay hi I have John Smith here's this film what Do you think about him crickets oh well I don't know more guys you'll never even Get a response from most of these people We talk about that all the time right Like if and these are people that like We have personal relationships with Right like and those guys don't get back To us because it's just just what it is It's you have to have enough reach that You have enough Relationships that you could you can Reach and that that eventually because There is a place for everybody that you Can find a Place but if you don't have enough Resources that's where kids get left in The dust so the transfer portal is like Completely uh changed everything Everything that and fast and fast And like fast like within two seasons Right like within two cycles you've now Seen even guys that got in the portal in That first wave right aren't even close To these guys in this second wave in Terms of the nil stuff and all that
Other stuff right lane kein spoke on it The other day and said hey when you get In this transfer portal matters because If you're one of these original guys you Might have been getting this but now This new wave it's kind of like you know How how free agency in the NFL goes you Know one guy at a certain position sets The market and then before you know it Every contract that comes after that you Know kind of goes that way that's the Way nil is and these guys don't like you Know not everybody's getting the same Money okay that's that's very and now How do you handle the locker room in Terms of that because now it's like a Locker room your quarterback makes this A receiver makes this lineman make this This guy might not make anything right There's a now there's a whole another Part of the coaching world that now you Have to balance and you're talking about Stuff that you know in terms of who's Getting what Money it Is uh and and I think the money thing Like eventually I think people will Start to fall alive on that because the Pro aspect like once they get used to it It's like hey this guy's getting this This how it is the the hardest thing is The mind frame of the athlete which is Why this is why they like the transfer Portal okay if if I'm a coach who and my
Staff their job hinges on the Performance of these athletes which is The Truth if the kid I'm gonna give money to Somebody I'm gonna give it to a guy who Even if he played let's say he played at Uh um oh Delaware's is now going Division one William and Mary right and Threw for uh threw for 2500 yards at William and Mary that's a much better Prospect for me than a high school kid Even if he is a pretty high level guy Even if he's coming from St John bosow In California right Orman or or just right just like because Why this guy's ready made I know he can Compete he's already shown me right he He it's less just everything on me in Terms of and he's going to help me now I'm not going to is ready made the key Word is years Ago you red shirted then they got away With to develop you right to get went Out the window for the most part like I Mean they use it when they need to but But for the most part they want you Right and then and then it went to like Okay so now High School guys are Graduating midy year so they can get in For Spring ball right and they can get Jump start on that right now that's like Okay these guys are going in transfer Portal guys the season has you know they Walk away maybe if their team's playing
In a bowl game hey I'm in the transfer Portal because we know that's all going On while teams are still in season you Know this guy might be out practice on Monday and all of a sudden bull practice Starts and he's nowhere to be found but Now he's on another roster Like you know it's you type it transfer Portal to Google and in Google and it's it's Mind-blowing you look at like Alabama Had 10 players going to transfer portal I think on the second or whatever like Literally the last day that you could Kind of go in right uh Ohio State oh but That's a whole that's a whole different Animal because like 11 in one Quarterback he left and then they're Trying to find another guy because the Guy who played in the bowl game was not Very successful nope uh um not that he Won't be he may I mean he didn't have Much time but like he wasn't very Successful so now they're trying to find A quarterback out of the transfer Portal it's so funny because you know I Look at it like this like it's and Coaches have to ad are struggling to Adapt to this like Ohio State Ryan day when he was approached if if This all was true I don't know Ryan day Has never talked about this but if it's All was true the dad asked that's what They say the dad asked if he was going
To be the starter next year and he said Obviously it's Ohio State we got to Compete but if you think about it now Like that's kind of the the what you Would normally say before the transfer Portal you would have said that right Now he he was being honest as far as That what what his approach was was but Basically you had a starter and now you Not on purpose alienated your starter in Some way shape or form and now you Thought your other guys were as good you Find out they may not be as good now You're actually back in the portal Getting trying to get a kid that was as Good as the kid you just lost because You said one thing that and and that's Kind of the world it is it's it's a World where you have to manage Expectations on a regular basis and uh Not that you don't normally But kids are going to move and there's Not like I don't see the NCA right now Putting in parameters like I think it Would have to come from like Congress Saying you know you know when they do Their little like um they bring them Down and they ask questions about it to Think to see if they want to a maybe a Rule about it you know I mean all those Congress I think the Whole you know what I mean it's it's Listen it it there's a lot of factors That go into it right now too is I think
You're dealing with a certain type of Kid that's been raised a certain way Right and it has nothing to do with them Themselves it's just how they were Raised in terms of ask questions right Um you know stand up for yourself uh you Know everybody deserves a fair shot all That kind of stuff and so now you're Starting to see it and then now the Rules right are kind of aiding in that Process of allowing that stuff to happen And so now you're seeing just all right Well one did it now two do it and now It's a domino effect it's kind of Snowballing I think the NCAA I look they're in the business of Just making money I mean we kind of Understand that whole process but at the Same I don't doesn't make money from Football that's part of the issue so and It's the bowl games right that now it's Just like a whole different it's a whole Different whatever the NCA makes money From basketball because they run the NCA Tournament right college football is a College football playoff that's a Separate Organization so that's not they're under The NCA rules but that is not owned by The NCAA so that's an important thing to Understand so when like so you really Have a situation in football not Necessarily basketball but in football Where the NCA is regulating all this
But as far as their control over the Championship and those kind of they Really don't they have they don't run The championship right so when that Happens and essentially the conferences Run the conferences and then oh by the Way and see please enforce the rules Like so when you have the conferences Going on with all the things that are Going on football dictating all the Things that are going on I I I don't Think the NCA has the staff or is a Absolutely not to handle they no they Rely on committees plus they're bullied You know what I mean like these guys They are getting bullied yeah like you Know what I mean like it's like at the End of the day let's call it what it is And you're now starting to see though These higher level programs with you Know more donors and more just overall Money and stuff of that nature now are Starting to what it looks like Aid in The process of you know helping you Recruit change your roster all those Kind of things because with you know nil And all this other stuff the you know The transfer portal guys can just go Here and there and all other these Places and if you know you have a good Niil Collective like you're kind of set You know I think those are the things That like I think the nil idea was a Good idea but I think the parameters
That were like I think now it's becoming The wild west and I think they'll get it Together because I think they'll have to Otherwise it's just gonna be like you Know I I don't pandemonium but and I Think like the coaches are kind of Lobbying for certain things um but you Can see a guy like Deion Sanders come on In and and do things that we've never Seen done before and you know there's no Precedent to kind of hold it you know Accountable well you don't know if he The only precedent would be if he won or Lost right so if he lost and it failed You would know there's the precedent for That if if he wins and he's successful There's a precedent so and right now It's in limbo because it's only his First year and it was right you you Wouldn't argue it was not successful so Um you wouldn't say it was unsuccessful To say that he failed but because the Team wasn't good the year before but it Was unsuccessful in the fact that it Didn't it by flipping the roster it Didn't change the record in a radically Different way so next more tickets yeah Oh no it did sell tickets next year will Be interesting because you'll have a Second year of sample size and then You'll know okay is this really working His philosophy is this making the change And then the other thing is is like well You know guys like Kirby Smart and and
Nick Sabin they used the transfer Portal um but like what if those guys Actually went all in and turned their Rosters over you could have like you Could that's not their philosophy but Let's say that was their philosophy they Could very quickly retool all the little Areas that they're missing with depth And take all the players if they really Wanted to because they could say okay You 40 started this year and played the Other 45 didn't you guys are gone and And then uh we'll get 45 new guys They're not doing that yet per se but if They lose a couple more times and feel They need to I could See not because they what's the stop for What's to stop the best players in the Country from going there nothing I mean I think exactly like like if you're the Best like all right let's say you're a Guy a guy at Texas right you just made The college football playoff but all of A sudden you know Georgia Calls okay well why not right Arch Manning that all that controversy with Like Arch man like is he gonna like he's Not jumping in the portal but it's it's It's interesting because like if you Think about it from Arch Manning Standpoint he was the number one player He's there's another year that he's Probably not going to play right right Quinn ever come back if Quinn come back
Which he's gonna Quinn yers now has to He didn't play good enough so now win The game right so now quinas has to come Back but here and here's so here's M Like you know what what let's say hang On let's say what if what if let's say Like all Right maybe we're a group of guys on a Team right and it's you know quarterback Receiver running back whatever what's to Stop the three of us from saying look Let's where like let's get a package Deal somewhere all three of us will go Somewhere one school we know who did That You know the two brothers twin brothers That were the um they were technically Linebackers at UCLA but they would I Don't know if you saw the game there was A game big game they won I can't Remember who it was but they were no I Watched them play Colorado they these Two brothers okay um were linebackers But they were they would line up at D Tackle and at nose guard and at D end And they would come off the edge and They had like a zillion sacks in that Game between the two of them you know They were unbelievable athletes but they Look like linebackers they're probably Like 63 like 220 or you know type of Thing they transferred as a package the Both of them from North Texas they were Very good players at North
Texas um highly productive I think like Use your leverage and the both of them Came as a package to UCLA so now UCLA Didn't get one guy they got two they got Two and uh but you're right like uh you Could you know the Sanders look shador And his Brother right and even what you what you Know or maybe like hey like you know What I mean like hey I'm at this school Right you went to high school together That's what I'm saying like I went to I Went here you went there look let's go Let's pick a place and let's all go you Know what I'm saying like why not right Like you know you get some of these Schools that produce these dudes they Get to college and it's like yo these Guys my high school teammates were Better like you Know or or you you had a better even if Their talent level was the same as Another guy you know them right so like You grew up around them so you feel Comfortable with them and if you played At a high level program together now Here's here here's the here's the here's The big one that I think is gonna you Know and we're seeing it a little bit Already right God guys that commit to a Place right and maybe they commit to the Coach right position coach and now all Of a sudden this position coach ends up Somewhere
Else I'm taking all these recruits with Me right so now you're gonna see guys Same type of gig doing all that stuff Using the transfer portal and using that Other stuff to be like hey my guy is Here now how do I get here or hey I'm Gonna bring you in here guess what Here's your nil Here exactly I think that's that that's A big big thing and I think you're Seeing it a little like you're seeing Guys do it you know and look it's Happened a lot but it's it's now it's Always happened but I think now the Amount that's happening is because with The transfer portal it's easier you can Just go and do it right whereas you had Had to jump through a couple Hoops look At Fran Brown yep exactly and and what You have is you know up at Syracuse Brown is doing a great job with getting All those Guys over there he got quarterback from Ohio State he got um he flipped some big Commits from certain places uh you know What I mean like he's bringing in these Guys and like it said same type of thing With Dion right like obviously it has to Show on the field because ultimately You're judged by wins and losses right But that stuff's all in Line yeah I I I think that that's going To be interesting in in the off season Um a lot of the Conference changes too
Now you're seeing us you know USC and UCLA and the Big 10 Like M markets and I think the kind of Coach that is needed at College Like did you watch uh no I don't know if You watch him or not but there was a Really interesting thing where like Warren Sap and um Marshall faul were Talking to Jason Whitlock and they're Very frustrated with oh did I cut out Here am I Frozen are you frozen you are Frozen I am Frozen but you can hear me correct which Means usually what happens is you Usually blank out for a couple seconds W This happens by the way every time every Single podcast well remember I used to Have all those connection issues and Then I started doing it off my phone it That's just it's just so much easier That's what I'm gon to have to do in a Long run let that or I'm gonna have to Like really revamp the whole system and Get like a whole bunch of like new Stuff but so like I said this is what Happens coach Schuman goes missing right For a couple times and usually the guest And I kind of just do our thing but Listen like we were talking about in Terms of kind of you know the whole NCAA transfer portal all this kind of Stuff the guys that are in college Already and are now getting into the Transfer portal like coach was saying
Understand it because this is literally Their livelihood and they're making a Decision where they're virtually and Essentially giving up getting their Education paid for 100% to go and try to get that at a Different Place you're back I'm back um oh by the Way so we're on Instagram live right now Uh I think it's the first time I did it Without doing a replay live I this is Actually live so if you're on it now Like you're probably able to ask qu I You know I don't know maybe I would have To sit on my Instagram to answer Questions I that I don't know but um I Guess I need big Smitty to to do my Podcast too [Laughter] Right um Co J yeah but uh So uh so what I was say so Marshall faul Was kind of it was crazy he was kind of Complaining about Um not getting opportunities I I think He was talking more media but um and Mar Sap and they were they all kind of Complaining about it and you know I mean Well Sapp I think is going to Colorado With Dion yeah but they were talking About Coach you know X players again and And and you know and he L lock tring Explain like these Guys went the road of learning how to Coach you know type of thing and while
You were playing and they like well Isn't there some level experience with Playing that you translate I'm like Playing experience does translate to Understanding what players go through Right it translates in maybe Understanding some level of Scheme um but outside of the quarterback Position maybe like the safety or middle Linebacker Position maybe the center on the line Everybody's pretty focused on the their Own world right where they don't have They don't worry about other people as Much right so it doesn't necessarily Translate outside of your position now Position I if you were to say positional Opportunities I would say okay maybe You're right right because if I played The position I know the techniques of my Position I could probably if I know how To if I have the ability to temperament To coach I could maybe coach the Position right a management level Position like coordinator or head coach Or something like that to me is a little Bit different but but what was Interesting is this and just from the Transfer Port the type of I don't know Why my phone's going the type of coach That is Required and it may not be coach it may Be staff member because they're all able To put as many staff members as they
Want now so you may maybe your coach Your position coach is the same kind of Guy maybe you don't as these billion Dollars keep rolling through maybe your Your guy is like Hey listen you only Kind of thing on recruiting I need you To do is talk to a couple kids that Might be your position guy when we get Down to it maybe look at a second look At a film of a Guy but eventually I think you're gonna Have you've seen in a few places you're Gonna have G the parallel to like the NFL system you know head Coach all of his staff analysts Assistants person now right and you have You already see teams doing a good Amount of it but it's like one Personnel Guy or two Personnel guys like Eventually that staff and I don't think There's a limitation on your personnel Off the field staff I think there's a Limitation of your on the field staff But with your off the- field staff I Think you're gonna have head Scout area Scout um yeah you're gonna have an Entire Crow on cow recruiting department That's so much more than what it is now It's not just going to be somebody who's Sitting there monitoring Twitter and all This other kind of stuff your coaches You could actually now have a coach That's like hey dude you're just going To coach okay yeah maybe you have to
Shake a hand with a parent here or there Or call a kid or shoot a text but think About it even that other than a FaceTime Or a face Toof face you could have your GA texting these kids and not you know These kids not have a clue now is that The right way to go about it I don't Know if it gets have your general Manager your general manager your Director player Personnel or your head Of transfer portal now whatever you call It the Staffing now at the college level Is going to and I mean look and you see It when these guys take over you know Matt rule takes over at Nebraska all of A sudden all these other positions are On board and in within the staff itself Right and then the bigger the budgets The more people you can get into the Program and pay now the more Staffing You have the better things are going to Probably go for you because you just Have more people to handle those Specific jobs whereas now one guy isn't Wearing Seven Hats right like I'm not Going to coming off the field to Watching film with my guys to texting Recruits to doing this to having a visit Over here and then sign this or you know What I mean like somebody is going to be Assigned each coach is almost going to Have their own little group of whatever To handle the dayto dayss right so where The money if it continues to come in
Especially at the bigger Programs that allows you to really kind Of shape I I know that don't want to do It because they like the college model And I agree with that but that's kind of Out the window right now so but the way You're shaping it is like a a you know Two big trees right and those trees have All these different tentacles and they Have rolls within it and that that GM Player Personnel person which used to be On the staff was a throwaway literally Was a throwaway guy I like this guy he Coached for 30 years I want to give him Something that I could have him do that Will create now that guy is valuable Really really valuable it's the same you Know Dion has a player Personnel staff Like and this guy said like what is your Job well my job is to get the best Players here I heard that guy talk that Was the guy I mean that's this is what Right he doesn't he doesn't even he Knows the players by their film he Doesn't know the players he don't know Who they are I mean he might know them When he walks by them I'm sure but he Not spending time with them in that way His job is and and I think they do that On purpose because now it doesn't get Personal and now you don't feel like oh Well he's a good kid no dude he ain't Performing I don't care goodbye right And it keeps it that business structure
Mentality of and that's what that's Where the you know the disconnect or the Battle is is between you know the ogs Who want to keep this college football Team all that that kind of stuff and Then there's a whole they're not wrong But it's not it's not how it is and then The other group that's you know Business-minded out for myself what can I do to kind of help myself get to Wherever I need to be you're having now You got two really kind of big things Clashing and it's like well you know Pick a side well I don't know about I I Think it's a mix of both so I think You're going to need both groups of People I think you're need the people Because look their departments aren't Just so their departments are coaches And and all the analysts that do Football related activity Direct on the Field activity right or analyze on the Field activity then you have Personnel which Is everything scouting transferor Recruiting everything along those lines Which I absolutely is social media much More business like well then there's the Then that's the question is the third Part which you just mentioned which is Nil um Marketing sales I guess like Where does all where does that go within The organization because it is part of Personnel to an extent right you are you
Need to have a whole business department It's like literally a business Department for football like that's not Even I I see them do like when you go on The if you ever I don't know if you ever Go off up on the the the Staffing but When I go up on the Staffing there are Some places that have kind of all three Areas they just haven't mapped it out That way there are some places that just Have one or two people listed in that Area and I'm like oh my God that's bad For them in the long run like that like Those people must be working around the Clock doing 50 million different jobs You know I'm saying like you really it Really becomes honestly the best way to Think about it is you really You' Literally a factory think about a Factory okay an actual Factory and and Everybody has a job in that factory Right like there's a manager of the Factory there's a CEO there's a there's A a line manager there's a guy that Manages the union group there's uh there There's the actual line workers there's There's uh people who specialize in I Don't know Communications or Electronics Or Mark yeah everybody has their own Little specialty or entity or part of in Order to make this run this department Handles this this department handles That this department handles that and Those guys are specialized in those
Areas you know very rarely do you see People jump back and forth or or overlap Which is kind of what the traditional Way of college football was right like Not only are you the D line coach but You're also you know you also need to Recruit and Scout and you're responsible For this uh State and this County and Then hey you know you have to make sure That you're reaching out to this Recruiter and you're doing this like They you wear a lot of hats and now with The way this is just the overall Attention that needs to be and this is Without even talking about retaining Guys on your own Roster right well who was responsible For that so who who like so the coach is Respon obviously ultimately responsible But you need some somebody because there Is such turnover that also is like a Staff guy That is hey you know here's what's going On with you here's what you know we like Here's what we don't like you know all Right let's set a meeting for with you With Coach so we can discuss these like Oh you know uh like an HR department Within the the staff itself yeah like is It HR or but it's it's something like That yeah absolutely it's Personnel but It it's Um if you if if you've ever seen like NFL kind of departments like
The these groups are they have multiple Levels there's really three levels There's there's there's foot on the Field there's personnel and then there's Business right I mean there's really Three and they all kind of cross over in Some way shape or form which usually in A company on top of all of those people In the NFL it's called an owner right or CEO but here there really isn't the the CEO SL head coach that's a tough job That's J but then here's the other part Like is it or is the athletic director That guy that's a tough job for the Ath normally I would say yes that's the Athletic director but oh by the way You're the athletic director not only Are you in charge of all of this big Gigantic thing called football and oh by The way you have to do basketball Baseball uh so in the NFL organization It's not like they're doing soccer and You know they're focused on war sport Think about above the athletic director Now you have the president of the school So not only does he have to worry about Like you know now he's worrying about Not only the athletic director all the Academics and all that other stuff that Goes along and then it just like who hit Like there actually really does it's the Biggest schools the the group of five Schools I don't think they need they Need some version of it but they
Probably don't have the money to do off Over at the at the Alabam of the world The the georgas and the the the top TI Guys you see on TV you almost need like The own the owners are guess are like The university Board of Trustees but Within the the athletic department Within football you almost need like Literally it sounds crazy to people like A CEO and then yeah there's a head coach Is underneath the CEO the head of Business whatever you want to call them Is under the CEO and the general manager Just like you have in the NFL is Underneath the uh CEO because his job is Personnel and all that stuff and you Really need those three entities but as You have right now which is why these Coaches are upset and they rightfully Look look they're they're Millionaires And and do they need to complain being Millionaires no but as far as why they Probably feel like they're tugged at Every corner is because usually in a Company the C the the head coach is not The CEO okay the head coach reports to In University and athletic director who Acts as the CEO but it's it's gotten so Big that the athletic director actually Needs a CEO underneath him to run the Football Department to R to run all of football and and the Head coaches definitely don't want this Because that means they could be fired
At any time right like it also means Just less EXO football well well it Might allow them EXO football so I'm Saying if you had a guy that managed oh That hand I get it so like basically What your DFO right handles like you all Organizational type of stuff but now Like we played was here's the itinerary We're going to we're getting on the bus At at at Eight that's not what it is anymore you Know like hey let me blow this horn at Two Minutes no that's not what it is but now It is a situation where um you have a a Yeah I mean it it's going to evolve that Way um and football Coaches they may end up liking some Parts of that more and may hate other Part like less control quote Unquote but more football so what's the Tradeoff is that good or is that bad Right let because because eventually H How you not at worst they're gonna have To have as three tiers that are gonna Have to work together under athletic Director which is GM business manager And uh uh head coach and they have to And if and if you really want to like Call it for what it is like these higher Level programs you know your Ohio States Your Alabama you know these guys of the World have been kind of doing this Behind the scenes or at least had
Somewhat of a framework that modeled you Know what the NFL does in terms of that Now maybe it's not the same names or any Of that but it's somewhat modeled like That right for these guys to transition And that was kind of always well we Don't have that at you know here or we Don't have that here you know but now I Think like you know so a lot of those Guys kind of have been I but I just Think it's now it's on a different Level the the go on the Staffing thing And like the biggest schools and see how They've started building it out they Still haven't figured out how they want To Branch it but they've been building It out like when um when Vanderbilt and I I'm not talking about whether it's Successful or not but when Vanderbilt Hired Clark Lee they hired Barton Simmons as the general manager and Barton Simmons Does nothing on the field Barton Simmons Used to be like how you know Mike farles Was a Rival guys they literally hired him all In charge of all the Personnel how do we Get kids into here managing all the like He literally got hired in that role he Has zero on the field role but he's Probably paid because he was playing He's probably paid very well oh I'm sure I mean several hundred thousand right so The the point is that role is going to
Become key because you know what it else It is it's a leadership role too Absolutely it's like an administrative Role it really is an administrative role Someone who's able to lead other people It it u in a you've done stuff like that Before or whatever your history is I Just think the whole evolution of Football itself is going to be you know It's it's getting overhauled right now In terms of because it's just adapting To kind of what going on you know who Said I gotta give him a shout out and um You know who who uh he works in Florida State uh he GA with them in the Personnel and you'll know this name as Soon as I say it to you um I gotta give Him a shout out because uh I was talking To him and he was very excited about Football because of it's expanding so Much of the big schools that there's Going to be more and more opportunities I never thought about how he said it but He said you know the industry is booming That's the word he used and you know uh So I said there's going to be more and More opportunities at the college level Probably similar to NFL maybe more Absolutely maybe more than the NFL maybe More but the person is and you'll love Him he was one of our players and he was One of one of our linebackers is Will Dpra so will dpra works in the Florida State athletic department perfect spot
Uh for for football and uh but he he is But I I loved what he said there because It's it's it's the industry is exploding And I never thought about that way like Because you you when you see transfer Portal when you see nil when everything Everybody talks about you know coaches This frustrates them when he mentioned I Thought you know what that's a really Really Keen Insight because what he's Saying is there's going to be more Opportunities because absolutely for More people to get involved in football And that's great maybe I can make an Actual career in it you know and and and I think that that's you know whether he Does or he doesn't that's the thought Process when we came out that wasn't Really think about the road when we came Out that's what I saying like you think About it like where there used to be Only 12 jobs per staff and now you're Gonna have 253 jobs you might have 50 Right like who knows like you know what I'm saying like it doesn't it just Creates more opportunities within a uh You know within a a career that you Really wasn't unless you were a coach or You know like maybe you saw a lot of These like you know film guys or an Equipment guy right but now like there's Just going to be more of these jobs and To be Honest you know you see some of these
Guys marketing are that are hiring They've never done any you know some of These guys have no background in Football whatsoever but they're getting Hired to do marketing or to do the Business aspect of it right like and Maybe sometimes to have that nonf Football perspective might be a benefit Like who knows I Think there's pros and cons I think this Coaches so some head coaches look at it As a Possible negative in a loss of control But oh yeah they're gonna be threatened But if you look at it from an economic Standpoint I don't mean uh profit I mean Economic more Jobs are available for more people so if We look at it from that standpoint That's very positive me let's when we Were coming out I remember when when um I mentioned it to coach Holtz about you Know GA and and you know like what what We could do and and basically the only Role was like you could be a ga as a a Coach GA kind of and this is a long time Ago obviously I'm older but but that was Really it man that was really that's all You could do and and unless you really Knew that's what you wanted to be at That time no there was a lot of there Wasn't really anything you could do so Many g spots it wasn't like hey why Don't you go ga in the equipment
Department or why don't you go ga in the Business department right it was no You're gonna be one of the three gas we Get and if you're not that on the field Guy and you're going to be the grunt and You're gonna have to do all the work and All this other like that stuff like now Slide into a different department right It used to be listen you're on the field And oh by the way you're also watching All bits of film you're doing like Everybody and then guess what when I'm Going home make sure you contact all These recruits and make sure Everything's on point and then make sure We know that when these guys come in Tomorrow morning you know the film's Ready to go and everything's cut up and All my cards are done like dude you know There's a reason that the was what it Was that might be crazy but I think it's I think it's true for opportunities for More people to be involved in football It's Probably very good right for coaches who Are used to dealing with uh consistency And stability it's not good Right as a coach what do you want you Want to know what player you're gonna Coach you want to know you're gonna have This guy for three years and you can Develop him you want to like that Stability to you is one of the reasons Why you like coaching you like the fact
That you could develop someone that's a Reason now you flip it to the other side Does a general Manager is stability and this uh the Roster a big deal or is it the best Roster that's big well to the general Manager Personnel the best roster is the The big deal not stability little bit Different than the coach and then you Bring in the business people I'm the Marketing social media guy right like oh This kid and now listen now you're gonna Have these conversations where hey this Guy is a marketing Guru like we could do So much with him we can do all this but Guess what he ain't the best player at His position so what are we gonna do do We keep him on for this or you know what I mean like maybe we keep him on and Just you know use him to push the Program in terms of clicks and likes and Whatever how soon before you start to See you'll have a Department that will will M like so you You see it now like there were so Talking about well-rounded players like Not only do you have to be the best Player that runs the fastest and does The best on the field but now you also Have to be this type of person that does This off the field or whatever I mean You remember when uh uh EJ barel first Went to Yukon and they had all and more Just first went there and before they
Even playing and they had a very good First year where there were they had This I don't know who was doing their Social media but remember how good the Social media was like their posts and Stuff they had all these incredible like It was really it was a change they had On a good intern somebody that's what I Think like I feel like they had some and Then the next if you look now I haven't Seen anything I haven't se right so my Thing is whoever that person was did Really find where they are bro you're The man and they hired him at like Alabama you know what I'm saying Somebody else Somebody went up when that person got There yeah somebody Somebody went in and Said who does the social media for Yukon Who's the guy John John Smith John Smith Uh all of a sudden he starts getting Calls from uh Georgia uh KS like they're Like hey man we're gonna give you 50,000 More a year and yep and guess what and I'm gonna pay for your grad studies and Guess what like you know what I mean Like look at all this opportunities You're gonna have just by doing and all You have to do is come here and do what You're doing with way more and I'm gonna Also give you a staff you're gonna have Three other people you know what I mean Like I don't care just checking with This person and you know that and then
Go do whatever you want like you're good To go okay mindblowing isn't it where do I sign on that dotted line I see I Think that whole thing is actually Really cool because but that's the part Long that will give the football Co in The long run once it gets worked out Right now now is totally a transition And I totally get why they're frustrated Right oh hell yeah if you were a coach Right now like if it evolve once it Evolves and gets it kind of hases out And shakes out to like Pro coaches love Their job why the pro coaches love their Job they just coach football that's it This guy handles the marketing and tells Me I gotta be here for an appearance at This time you know I need a uh hey you Got a meeting with your owner at you Know whatever like that's it what do I Worry about make sure that guy is Playing at the highest level possible You want to talk contracts and money go Talk to this guy right now I'm sure as a Head coach in the NFL you have to have Some you know what I mean in terms of That but yeah the you're not the days of Hey bellich like you're the head coach You're the GM you're The do you think the wide receiver coach In the NFL do you even know who most of The wide receiver coaches are in the NFL No because they coach football man That's you barely know a like a
Coordinator okay maybe but like not like Not unless it's you know what I'm saying The only time you really know a Coordinators when they get Fired right and those position Coaches they're making 500,000 and you don't they don't have to Worry about anything they gotta worry About these Five Guys right over here These five guys and listen hey I need This play this play this play this play From this this that okay uh film guy Thank you okay Coach here's your Clips So I think that Evolution at the highest Level FPS will in the long run it's not GNA any of the lower levels because Painful no lower level honestly so I I Look at like FBS I FCS and below and I Think yeah yeah might be a little bit It's really not that trustful from you Just take the leftovers man take the Leftovers and F and and make do and you Know what even though it's annoying that Your star player who catches 50 balls For you is now at Alabama you just go Get the next leftover the you know like It you're you don't have to you don't Have to you don't need the scouting Department because big schools are doing It for you and guys that want to speak Out against that and get all salty about That like that's great what are you only Gonna do though like you know what I Mean like you're not going to change it
Or or or whatever so you might as well Just embrace it own it and just move on From it and just say hey you know what Yeah like that guy left but guess who Developed him right and then let's say That happens again well then guess what Guess who's gonna start to get a Reputation of developing like hey that Guy can develop guys at this level now What it only AIDS in your recruiting Because now people are going to want to Go to your school because they have an Opportunity to whatever if that's just What it is then own it that's a that's Insightful that's an insightful thing Too I didn't think about that So I coach five guys at wide receiver That all after catching 60 balls for me Consecutively unfortunately but it they Leave and they go To Five big-time schools I Think that those schools eventually are Going to Say who is that wide receiver coach like This guy keeps producing guys that are Nothing else it gets me on some type of You're going to go somewhere so you're Career is going to be Advanced I I I Think that you're you're you're Definitely definitely oh uh we we got um Uh a situation where it Becomes if you think about it if you Flip your thinking a little Bit and to what the positives are of it
Instead of always thinking like right Instead of always thinking it's a Negative or or any type of change now Look I'm a traditionalist too man like I I love the like most Your age or above is a traditionalist Like that's what it is right like I it's Football's about being in a huddle it's A team it's all that man that stuff's Gone for the most part it's about the Individual where can they get to how can You help me right like winning a Championship like you know some of these Guys would much rather say you know Would you rather have you know 20 Touchdowns and have a full and have a a Power five offer on the season or win a State title most of these guys are going To say I'll take the Offer well that's always a tough that's A tough dilemma so like from a high School standpoint in the near term you You want the state championship in the Long term if you're going to Alabama Versus getting a state championship and You going choose one or the other Everyone's going to choose um uh you you Know that that situation everywhere People can say whatever they want like I Like if I want to State my team my Senior year was not good if we want a State championship and no one recruited Me Or we had the record I had and I got a
Division one scholarship I could tell You this this is and and I'm a coach and This is why I think I get it I would Take the scholarship all day you could Have the state Championship because I I'm telling you Like in the long run though the state Championship is great obviously what Does everybody really want both of Course you want both of course That's a right but I would hope at least Yeah any player who doesn't want doesn't Think that they want to advance Themselves like I mean maybe there was a Guy that would choose the state Championship and you know he could go he Maybe goes to heaven a little bit Quicker than me and you but um but I Ain't going Anyway I own I own that we got DM Football we got DM football chiming in With us up from uh I'm not sure if it's From Facebook or Instagram but it's it's It's it's good seeing Dom there we uh Talk great connection to kids always Going and Lead You In a great place yeah I I I think that is the key Don brought This up and I think this is a good point Um you know people business bro be being Connected with the kids that is a that Is a big big deal I agree with that all The way I also think that a big thing That comes into play now is look let's Say you recruit a kid for out of high
School or wherever or in transport Wherever you're recruiting a kid he Doesn't come to you you keep that Relationship with the kid you don't cut It off you don't get salty you don't do Whatever because you never know when This kid could bounce back you know so Now you just recruit him on the back end Like hey you didn't come to me the first Time I kind of told you so but hey now Look you got a clear slate it is what it Is now you got It I I think that um The the development you also have to Take and this is hard in football Because you you have to understand that Like though everybody has egos you can't Tie your ego to an a a particular Athlete you you want to always do the Best you can try to help them as much You can 100% but don't this is I think The mistake coaches maybe make they get So expecting somebody to come up to them And say and and they're when kids do it It's amazing I love it when a kid comes And shows gratitude it's great but they Expect gratitude from them helping and That's a mistake you help with no Expectation because part of and and I Think for Me understanding this at a at a young Age as a coach was that like that's part Of your job bro that's your job part of Your job
Is if that guy wants to play college Football Right whatever level I find him a spot Right part of this that's what's Expected I don't need the pat on the Back for hey coach I really appreciate No man the greatest coach like oh coach Thank you so bro understand like I see Something in you right and I I'm pushing You to this level like because I see That that's why I'm doing this so that You can see version of yourself that you Don't see right now like you'll thank me In 5 10 years and if you don't that's Fine too bro like I know I did what was Necessary for us to get to the next Level because not only is it about the Team but it's also about you as an Individual and that goes along with it's The same as you know putting a guy at a Power five school on a full ride and Then a guy that doesn't play college Football but goes out into the world and Is still successful using the tools that You gave him as a coach is what Separates certain guys now I understand At the college level it's different Right it's different because the Relationships that you have and guys are Just you know everybody has their own Thing but it's trickling down now into High school as well but listen every Coach can still impact players on that Level no matter what it is right and I
Just think that's important I think I Don't want coaches and I don't think it You know I don't want some of these guys To Think that like just because it's quote Unquote a business now doesn't mean that What you do and how you treat these Certain players doesn't affect Them agreed and I think that that's and I think it's an issue that a lot of These younger coaches and I don't want To sound like that guy that's like oh The whatever is wisdom it's lack of Wisdom the need for now though right Like man like you remember coming up pay Your dues man like sit in the room be a Sponge don't open your mouth and if you Do have something to say you better damn Well understand that like you're going To get seven different point of views Coming at you because you're the Youngest and what do you know right so If but if you can prove that just Continue to do the work and you know do The jobs nobody wants to do and all Those kind of stuff like I'm old school In regards to comp so many of these Young guys just come up and just because You know they have a whatever record on Madden they feel like hey I can call Plays Yes like come on man like take the Backpack off and Coach well that's a whole different
Aspect do actually brought up a good Interesting point I'll put put this out There he said it seems like college Football's turned into High School youth Football without the nil deals I I I Think that there is an aspect to that Because see there's two there's two Elements that are pushing in both ends Right you have the NFL model Okay which obviously is a Business has those I talk about those Breakouts of those three levels right Breakout of they have the business Aspect you have the coaching aspect you Have the Personnel aspect those are Three things involved in in in in uh Underneath the Umbrella underneath you have youth Football which is organizationally built Not necessarily for Profit by organization but has a it Doesn't matter whether it's nonprofit or Or for-profit the model is a Business-based model correct you have to Take in a certain amount of money to get Uniforms do all those kind of things Okay high school public school that's Not the case uh parochial school it is a It obviously parochial school you're Gonna have a mix of it um but it's a Situation Where those two down and upsides are Really pushing on college football right And
So what happens is eventually you get to A point where in order for college Football to fulfill what is going to Happen when they go to the pros you have To get a model that's somehow you the College football model was contradictory To all the other models and so what you Have a little more like the high school Model but contradictory to all the other Models okay and especially the NFL this Is why I always bring up the point of Soccer or baseball in a sense but soccer In Europe is really a is really an Example of kind of what college Football's Becoming because they take kids through A system right and that system whatever Name you have it when it's Alabama uh you know or um uh Carolina Panther University right it's it's part Of a system right and a system that Takes them through The the soccer System is basically two ways you go two Ways you're basically a club Recreation Guy yep I mean it's not really Recreation but like I don't know you Play you might compete but you're never Going to have a chance to earn any money Right right or you're on a path to maybe Be a pro maybe be a pro and those are Two P two very distinct paths that the Kids find out probably in their teenage Years because there is no high you don't
Play sports in high school in Europe or Or in England you play for your club and Then High School is high school so or Like what do they call it secondary School I don't know same thing you play For your whatever they call now I used To laugh at that model laugh at it like I used to think because I play college Football I said the university model is The much better model what I never Understood was it may have been a better Model but as long as you have Pro Sports It wasn't a sustainable right you can't There's not any way to continue it it's No way to long-term continue the soccer Model which probably goes a hundred Years before our University models right The soccer model is like hey you go to School to go to school college high high School whatever they call it ele you go To school to go to school and yes our School might have uh I don't know an After school club soccer team but that's Not it's almost like they were separate They're separated separated at Youth Sports now you do right like I use my Son he plays on St Leo's basketball team He plays on a Rec team and he plays on H A travel team right those are three Different areas three distinct different Areas three distinct different Objectives and that's how the mo I mean And that's pushing up on the college Model and the NFL pushing down below on
It and and same thing with the NBA right Everything gets squeezed and look and we Do obviously things here that are Different than you know no what what I'm Saying it's sustainability like Basically it's almost like they said Many many I don't know when they came up With it and I'm not saying it's right Wrong or indifferent I'm saying they Must have said at one point is like hey Sports are Sports sports are sports people who want To play sports they should follow Sports When they go to school they go to school Right what we've done which I thought Was originally brilliant in America Right we smashed it all together and Said look you can go to school and you Can play sports and you're now almost Rather than no you're not an academic Hyperfocus and that's all you do you're Not Athletics hyperfocus that's all you Do we're going to smash them together And now you're kind of taking away from Each right because now you can't focus All of your energy on Sports because you Got to go to school and you can't focus All of your on school because you got to Play sports or you're playing sports so It's like well you're asking me to do Rather than just be great at one thing You're asking me to be kind of like okay At both so right and so I I think that It's a very difficult thing and then you
See like because you're gonna have Outside organizations Like and for years schools fought Against outside organizations but you Can't like it's America some I could Derek tell me what you know do what I Want to do I I in America Derek dep Pasco could turn around and say I'm Gonna start the Derek dep Pasco Basketball organization right stop you Who who wants to train with me who wants To play in my organization right so if And now I can do things that like if I'm Affiliated with the school I can't do Correct it's very it's interesting and Now it's all Intertwined and it's come yeah there's No like you can't no people aren't happy Nobody like people aren't happy like if You're on one side you're not happy if You're on the other side you're not Happy and um because you think it should Be one way if if you're you know if You're on the outside organization side You think it should be one way if you're In in the school aspect or or the University aspect you think it should be One way it's it's really really Interesting and the way that America Works is which I think is the beauty of It America is just like and it should This way I'm not going to put a law for You guys to figure this out you figure Out whatever the people want is what's
Going to happen so the people put Pressure this way and so that's worked Its way right through college football And the transfer portal system and so The coaches are like oh my God I'm doing 50 jobs eventually if we they figure out How to embrace it the right way Especially the big universities first Well with departments then you could say Okay uh right wide receiver coach guess What out of out of season out of your Coach your you now like the NFL guys you Can go take a month vacation because the Recruiting guys are bringing in the guys For you and then now Look if you want to be involved you can I'll pay you More you don't have to though absolutely You look at guys you look at I look at Guys that are labeled like good Recruiters right or listen to have that Double- edge like not only is he a great Coach but he's a great recruiter right Think about it okay those are your Rarities your Brian heartlines your Fran Browns right like names wherever pay Them whatever they need you need to have Them absolutely dude those guys now here You go now you want to get to that level Well man get better at your damn job Right and even when you're only supposed To be doing this maybe you do a little Bit more of that or maybe a little like And now look that's where it's going to
Be hey it's a younger man's game yeah Man because you know if I got to get Home to the wife and kids I can't be Spending all those times in the off all Those time in the office whereas now if I'm a younger guy I should be burning The candle at both ends because I can Now that's a whole different world but And then I think the happy balance of Both on a staff is what creates Greatness right like I got a family guy That's an OG but I got a young buck Who's willing to sleep in the office and Do all the craziness like now get that Happy medium balance the wisdom with the Young energy and like now we're cooking With gas I get that for every Position then I get that in my imediate Department then I get that in my Business people and ultimately when we All sit at this table Yeah like we're Gonna shoot stuff like we're gonna come At each other and whatever but it's all About at the end of the day like when we Hold up the national championship trophy Like all of y'all are getting Rings well That's what they do by the way in the NFL so you think that the secretary or The administrator they all get AR R they All the the the the lady in the Cafeteria like hell yeah and that's what I think Dion has embraced and you see it Obviously you know it's easy to Reference him because he's doing his
Show right or he puts this stuff out in The Limelight for people to see right But I think it's a model that a lot of Places are doing they're just not as Open and out in in the public with it But the people like like Don it's about It's a people business Right the more you show you care about Everybody in itself you know now Everybody's on the same positive path Even when and then when things when Things listen because we know how it is Things go astray things go AR right Stuff happens now those people aren't Going to be so quick to be like well Told you so or yep that's [ __ ] or you Know what I mean they're going to be Like look this is a pretty good dude and I think he'll get it right so let's give Him the chance right now maybe guys AR Getting fired after you know Midway Through their first Year I I agree with all of that I I I Think that um what do they call Division Of Labor division of labor that's an old Economic term division of labor Basically means maybe let me not butcher The uh Definition uh but it basically means Everybody has a specific job um yeah and It's the same thing like a factory the Factory system bro like assignment the Assignment of different parts of the
Manufacturing process or task that Different people in order to approve the Assembly line bro like you start with The body you put the wheel on you screw This you do that you go here you're Everybody's got their job much like a Football team you're the center you do This you're a guard you do this you're a Receiver you do this do your damn job at The highest level possible and then when We all do it together we Win yep and the guys that are doing it And and and figuring out are going to Continue to succeed and I the other Thing is I think it's something to like It's it's I think anybody not anybody But you know majority of people could Accomplish it but to sustain it your Nick Sabin your even your Kirby smarts Right to have those years and years and Years of you know they're the r arities That are able to be the CEO like that's The hard part for a lot of those guys They they either a great head coach but Not a you're either one or the you're Either really good here those are it's The same thing like if you were doing Listen I I would love for them to pick Category like how Madden does it for Coaches and pick you know 10 different Categories like this guy is really good At this and he's not good at this and He's really good at this and I would Love to see yeah that would be cool I
Think super cool like we gotta come up With like 10 parameters or however many You want to do like you know hey this Guy is you know he's a leader okay oh Well this guy is EXO guy or this guy is Really good at his marketing or you know This guy whatever yeah I just think that Would be cool to do and just see and and I say like I think the other part of it Is like you know likeability do his Players like to play for him now some Guys because I know some of my best Coaches I couldn't stand playing for but In the long run did I understand why They were that way absolutely now did They have to be like that all the damn Time no they could have took the guard Down every now and then but you know What those guys got the most out of me And that's me personally right some guys Don't aren't like That I think that's a huge key is like Look man you think all these guys like When Nick Savin rips their ass no but They know that hey this guy's gonna get Me into the freaking NFL Nick say and and I'm curious to see What happens in the next couple years Because this is the most times of years They've gone without being a champ uh if This group that's about to graduate next Year doesn't win a National Championship It'll be the first group that's gone Through all their years and not won Wow
Since he's been there and he's been There since what 2010 201209 I think it Was Maybe that's it's that's interesting I Mean dude even look like Clemson Everybody was like oh man Clemson GNA be Like unbelievable oh boy bye transfer Portal knocked that out trans Port got One thing said about it nope not good Now all of a sudden you get from get you Know you got the number one quarterback In the building so now he wants to leave And now he's going on to his third School already so okay um you know then You got like you know even Georgia right Like okay I've been there now all of a Sudden they lose that now they're out And they're not even in the Playoff like Okay now I don't think they're going Anywhere but it's also like the reasons That you've seen the tcu's hit on it for A year or this year Washington hit on it For a year and now with this whole thing Expand into 12 Teams now we're really rolling the dice Even though they're still G to complain And be like you know oh what about 13 There you know 12 13 deserves to be it's Just how it works it the more teams you Add the greater chance that it's not the Same teams that win that's just the Reality look at FCS and the same teams Don't win all the time at
FCS absolutely not look at division 16 Teams there's 16 teams in there Something can happen any anytime look at Division Three like your powerhouses of long ago Of Wisconsin Whitewater Mount Union all These places that what freaking Courtland State wins the D3 National Championship this year eventually Everything Changes dude it is what it is And listen if you don't and if you don't Adapt you die we both you know like Absolutely kudos to some of these old Heads like you know everybody wants to Say Nick sa Nick sa but like he's Embraced every little change and Everything he may not agree with it or Like it but he knows what he has to do To get it done in order to be successful No doubt great podcast today and the Only reason I'm cutting it off because We could talk for much longer is that I Have to go to I gotta SE it up I only Get my appointment once a week go get it Buddy and it out I gotta it out so I Don't get too too uh um too big to the Oldies Jean Simmons uh was it Jean what Was his name is that I don't know I Think Jean Simmons isn't that the kiss Guy oh yeah s to the always was Richard Simmons Even the 80s aerobic guy wearing wig ws And [ __ ] yeah wasn't there a Netflix Thing on like where is Richard Simmons
Like they were trying to fight him yeah Because and they also didn't understand That why he worked out so much and still Looked the Same I didn't know That guys's doing aerobics for like you Know zero sub so you can man that guy Looks great like I think he still looks The same as when he started it with the Same pair of Socks Richard s all right buddy all Right man great podcast good stuff all Right take care guys we'll get out of Here and move on as soon as I can find The uh the nice
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