Jersey Shore High School Football Breakdown with Scott Martin | Youth Football Evolution

Join Coach Schuman and Derek Depascale as they sit down with Scott Martin from Shore Sports Network to discuss the evolution of Jersey Shore high school football. 🗣️ They cover coaching strategies, youth football’s future, and the impact of media on the game. Whether you’re a fan or a coach, this conversation dives deep into football culture and community!

🌟 Highlights include:
Insights into Jersey Shore football
Youth football’s transformation
The decline of traditional media
How Shore Sports Network is changing coverage

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Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction to the Show
1:15 – Scott Martin joins the conversation
4:10 – Evolution of Jersey Shore football
7:50 – The decline of newspapers and media changes
10:40 – Youth football and coaching experiences
15:00 – Scott’s journey from the Air Force to coaching
20:15 – High school football culture and team dynamics
25:30 – Impact of Shore Sports Network on local sports
30:45 – Expanding football coverage to other sports
35:20 – The role of digital media in high school sports
40:10 – How Shore Sports Network is reshaping the community
45:00 – Closing remarks and final thoughts

All right we're back man 
let's roll it rolling with   It yeah yeah yeah finish on uh uh Friday um the 13th for people who are not not from a modern era 
I mean from the old school era they have no idea   What that actually really means no none zero 
one of the great horror movies of all time of   All time all time all time and what was amazing 
was no matter what what you did to escape Jason   He still got you found you even though he was 
going incredibly slow extremely slow that's what   I always loved about those movies you know like 
there was always some sort of like uh something   Going on some teenagers doing something or 
or like college kids doing something fooling   Around girls fooling around guys or whatever and 
then sudden you get like all a pops up yeah and   Someone gets messed up we got a great show today 
uh we have Scott Martin from Shore Sports Network   We're excited to talk to him uh we're GNA talk 
Jersey Shore football today um I don't think   We've covered really that in depth I don't think 
not really haven't really looked at it that much   Yeah yeah I mean we probably well we've talked 
about it because obviously you you coaching and I   Did coaching it um although I guess I coaching it 
now the youth level in some way in some capacity   But yeah so we're excited to talk that and um you 
know and they're doing some new things over there   Right they're switching some things up kind of you 
know uh looking to go you know and you know kind   Of bring it up to to what you know we see a lot of 
the youth looking for now and what you know just   The whole newspapers like where are they like I 
don't nowhere to be found man it's like yeah I I   Still walk into wa and see a newspaper I'm like 
I can't believe these things are even still here   Like you try to go through it right and it's like 
there's nothing in it it's like you know I can   Get more on just look it is what like I just I I 
missed that stuff because I like it was open like   Just to open that up and see it and just I don't 
know the smell like everything it was just so cool   But you know hey adapter die right so let's bring 
on Scott hey Scott how are you man hey good coach   How you guys doing appreciate you coming on man 
great thank you thank you um Jersey Shore football   And obviously you guys cover uh uh you know the 
sh Sports Network you guys covered everything uh   Uh you know not just football obviously but uh 
but obviously football is probably your biggest   Most explosive season especially on the website 
and uh and throughout social media probably with   Content and everything like that um you know I 
when I coached at Red Bank Regional from 2019   2020 I moved down here in 2018 or 17 before I 
started coaching down here I was still coaching   Up in North Jersey I was so impressed with the 
amount of coverage that football and the Jersey   Shore got because up in North Jersey even though 
football's fantastic um we basically had very   Limited coverage Derek would probably attest to 
that but down here there was so much coverage I   Couldn't believe it then obviously once I started 
coaching you know every game you knew the news you   Knew who won you knew who lost um right away like 
you didn't even have to go to um you didn't even  

Have to go to like grid IR New Jersey and wait for 
that to happen like we used to have to do probably   Still do I guess in North Jersey like because 
everything doesn't get posted as quickly um   But down here you really got that information and 
and you're you're you're a huge driver in that and   Have done a fantastic job with that um with your 
network to talk about the kind of Genesis of the   Whole entire Shore Sports Network and and coverage 
down here yeah I mean I can definitely attribute   Uh you know the the Legacy the history of it to 
the guy you know to Bob batter Scott Stone Matt   Vanley all those guys tons of respect for them you 
know I obviously they kind of broke off and did   Their own thing which is which is great I support 
it um but yeah so the the the core of it is this   Idea of a network being directly connected to a 
conference or a region or a county depending on   How high school is structured so you know if you 
think about the Big 10 the Big 10 Network SEC SEC   Network that's the concept here because it's not 
really happening in high school I've done a lot of   Uh done a lot of research into it um because the 
well I I guess to get back to your question before   I get into some of that is Genesis wise for me I 
you know I I was a special operations flyer in the   Air Force um and then while I was still in I was 
flying out of Maguire for a little bit uh I was   Coaching baseball over uh Southern Regional just 
kind of assistant varsity coach um mostly like for   Sanity and for fun um and you know following Matt 
Manley they they tweeted out that short Sports was   Going under I made a few phone calls bought the 
company more so to save it than anything just   Because it seemed like such a value and and the 
original my original thought was literally just   Kind of let it run itself and uh you know I could 
continue doing doing some other stuff and then   My love for it blossomed immediately took over 
man it took over especially from that coaching   Perspective and seeing these kids and you know 
it it's funny you go from hating this one school   To you know you're rooting for them and you love 
them and it's like if they're a short team I just   I love them I love all this whole thing and so 
it's just really funny how that happens but uh   Then yeah I started realizing you know talking 
to different athletic directors and different   Coaches and players and parents and there was so 
much information coming at me so fast and trying   To weed through it all I just I started doing 
a little bit of a deeper dive and just realize   The the power not only of sports but the power of 
kids in sports people care about sports but people   Really care about their kids in sports so and then 
kind of looking around and uh you know there's   Different like you said there's not as much going 
on in North Jersey either companies spread really   Wide where they're doing like the whole state 
and it's not real like down to the nitty-gritty   Coverage or somebody super locally centralized 
where maybe it's only a couple schools or a couple   Programs and so that at least with the shore 
the now 48 schools as we we welcome New Egypt y   It's like kind of that sweet spot of like okay we 
can we can kind of expand the coverage and we can   Highlight more kids more student athletes but it's 
not too much to do it within that one spot because  

Uh you know in the past they really only did two 
boy Sports a season like that was that was the   Model it was foot it because of football as long 
as they were getting paid for whatever the sport   Was that's all that's all that mattered so that's 
not that wasn't my philosophy so I I brought on   Girl sports right out of the gate Absolut I 
actually was I actually was going field hockey   First just because there were more girls um and 
then we were going to do a weekly on volleyball   The volleyball just took a absolute Whirlwind and 
I mean the amount of Outreach from that so I just   I ended up leaning into volleyball a lot more just 
because of that and I feel bad I still want to get   Field hockey rolling a little bit better but 
you know we'll get there as as we bring people   On baby steps right like little by little right 
because you want to do it right as you progress   And move forward exactly yeah yep so and then 
we you know launch a new website I think there   Was a lot of limitations on our other website from 
like the you know schedules and just being able to   Actually host the information even going trying to 
go back in time and looking at stuff like there's   Really like scrolling through that thing and it it 
glitches out on you and the ads are everywhere so   Um it's still early with porting data over but I'm 
trying to create this Central Hub of all of all   Short conference information it's like I I've got 
people sending me newspaper clips from the 1970s   I I can only imagine I can only imagine so and 
that's what I want to do I don't care it doesn't   Have to be like I I think so many people get 
big on this like who owns what in this content   I don't care if it's Asbury Park Press nj.com 
the Sandpaper Two Two River Times any of them   I I I don't care like I I'll hell I'll put their 
advertisers on there it's not about that for me   It's about kind of capturing that history and then 
highlighting it and so um just by creating these   More layers in this website now like we're drilled 
down we got like player profiles it allows us to   Kind of start highlighting some of those athletes 
that never got recognition before everybody told   Me well first off girl Sports you're not going to 
get that much you're never and then they they'll   Bring up a school like Lakewood L you know 
Lakewood will never send you anything well you   Know what the first head shots that a coach 
sent me outside of me getting them Lakewood   Girls volleyball so shout out to Lakewood girls 
volleyball because they you know like they're   They're proving it wrong like they everybody 
like they do care these spots do care so I want   To ensure that we it's like that Equity thing you 
know make sure that these girls and or boys other   Athletes are getting that recognition too not just 
the top athlete every week it's not just about   Awards every week M makes a lot of sense and I 
think that from a coverage standpoint I think one   Of the things that you just hit on which I think 
is really really important is and as I've you know   Like our our YouTube page is like through the roof 
you know we're at like almost 900,000 subscribers   Now and we only had 50,000 at the beginning of 
the year so we went up 50,000 in in one year and   Part of it was understanding that um the content 
leveraging other people's content to be able to  

To grow your own stage and that's a I think a big 
thing and be able to get uh people that team and   Partner on things in this in this kind of new new 
space with respect to um growing because the old   The old model was you know newspaper wise like 
you know I controlled my content whatever I came   Out with I didn't want anyone else taking that 
content or pieces of that content and basically   Now because of social media if you do that your 
content is limited to your small market and then   But if you if you allow your content to be shared 
it's it goes to markets that you probably never   Even known before people who follow the shore 
still but live in California or follow the   Short football still and live in Florida right 
and and moved and and grown up and moved on and   Have nieces and nephews and all those kind of 
things that still live here right and um um not   Not not to count people who are throughout the 
state who may be moved and obviously the people   Who are always here who who have lived here and 
stayed here so um it's I think that that's the the   The great thing about um the way that things can 
be shared is that like you could take something   That player did you know um a running the you know 
the running back from point uh Point burrow he had   That Fant uh fantastic run where he like BR like 
9,000 tackles that I did get that video though I   Was the one on the camera that time yeah yes and 
and it goes viral right it goes crazy viral like   It's everywhere and and then everyone's like oh 
that's that's a that's a sh school right and they   See that and all of a sudden now they're coming up 
to to your site and they're coming to your Twitter   Page and all that over and over again it's it's an 
amaz the share uh the ability to share things and   Then um and then have come back towards you is is 
so incredible um so it's great to see that you're   Continuing to evolve that that part of the network 
because like I I think that that's the whole key   To getting kids exposure agre and kids getting 
recruiting and uh kids getting looked at and   Schools getting exposure um and and I think that 
the groups that understand that man you you go you   Go exp I've seen it happen myself like exponential 
you know for 15 years with Nu Sports Camp stuff we   Would keep everything to our own kind of world 
and like try to draw everybody to us and once I   Stopped worrying about that and just let everybody 
grab whatever they want and shared it things went   Through the roof things went through the roof 
and and and it's it's a community that's what   It is yeah it's like you know like I said Asbury 
Park Press isn't a competitor like we're doing   Different things anyway and nj.com and you know 
what whatever you know sure Savages like they're   Just doing their Instagram thing like all these 
different people doing all these different things   Great like highlight the athlet that's what it's 
about it's not about me as the content creator   Or business owner it's not about any of that it's 
about them on the field and actually and I'm even   Kind of realizing a little bit about some of the 
kids not on the field too um you know I've engaged   With schools so for instance an example being Tom 
drier East talking to uh one of the teachers that   Runs with TR today the school newspaper we're 
going to do a collaboration with them and get  

It'll be like teacher sanction but uh kids like 
that want to actually produce some content whether   It's video or whether it is an article it'll all 
be vetted by the teacher but now we can put that   On our page it's like and that's great now we 
can highlight them because they're passionate   About this stuff too so it's not and you're gonna 
get like you know like now you get kids that are   Jumping into you know the area of expertise that 
they want to do right like they can learn and kind   Of go through that and kind of you know build 
their pseudo resume while in high school having   A teacher kind of oversee it where now it almost 
it's like a pseudo internship in a way right like   But it's all like but it's all for the good of the 
of the group it's good for everybody right like   And now you're just getting more kids involved and 
all that kind of thing like it's a positive thing   No matter what like we've always said too like for 
Dave and I whenever we went into a school was you   Know just any aspect of it like hey do you have 
a newspaper here do you have a media club like   They can come film practices they can come do you 
know take pictures for whatever like any of that   Stuff that you can incorporate outside of your 
program and now bring it into your program just   Is developmental for everybody across the board 
you know you look at like what college football   Teams do or any of those guys they all have 
it's way bigger than just coaches players X's   And O's and all that other kind of stuff all that 
other stuff matters yeah it's almost like because   Schol schools especially Public Schools like you 
see some of the private schools with it but like   The sports information directors that you see at 
colleges it's almost like we are deao this the   SIDS for every high school at the shore right now 
you know not officially but that's you know as we   Kind of build what this network is and uh you know 
even some of the coaches have access to our back   End now so they can throw things in there and 
which is amazing send us yeah like and that's   That's it like it's it's not again it's not about 
who created it or who produced it I'm it's is more   Of like a platform mentality than anything right 
which is is definitely you know it's def like like   A lot of people say it's about the kids but when 
it comes down to it it ain't so much about the   Kids you know what I'm saying like so the fact 
that like that's your mission and you could like   Care less about who gets the credit for it as 
long as the kids are spotlighted in the right   Way shape or form like I'm all behind something 
like that like that's 100% how it should be and   Unfortunately not really is yeah yeah know it's 
you know like you said you meet a lot of different   People a lot of different personalities and it's 
it's different and things are said and you know   I just kind of log it away in the back of my mind 
and and I know who's who and I know who's what I   Know what certain people are about and just kind 
of roll with that yeah absolutely le le Let's uh   So obviously you're covering uh Jersey Jersey 
Shore football which uh always has its unique   Amount of drama every single year uh um and uh 
you know you could start with um you know some   Of the some of the traditional top teams right 
and and maybe go from there but I think some of  

The the most interesting things are you know uh 
RBC like really expanding its schedule at least   In the beginning right now they're going to get 
into the the shore schedule but the schedule to   Try and continue to up their Annie and figure 
out what they have to do to continue to become   A a a bigger Powerhouse and they're probably you 
know uh obviously the first two games probably   Didn't go exactly the way they wanted to go 
but um but there's a lot of things I think   That they're they're learning from starting to 
expand their schedule like uh have you talked   To Coach Lang at all and and and what what he's 
doing there and with his program i t I actually   The other day I was I was at the girl s game I was 
talking to to Buddy Housman about the the program   A little bit and I think he's kind of on the same 
page with he coaches baseball there but it's the   It's that concept of if you want to be the best 
you got to play the best 100% Y and so the best   Program like look at Rumson last year five and 
five but then they still run it's it's about the   Playoffs it's about the big one it's not about you 
don't who cares if you're nine and0 but then you   Lose the first round of the playoffs it it almost 
doesn't matter anymore because it's all for not so   People when they're like oh RBC sucks now no they 
don't crazy they just lost they just lost crazy   Dude they're out of their minds they're crazy yeah 
they just lost the two top teams like the top team   In Delaware and and they're they're coming in you 
know they're coming off of backto backs they have   Their senior quarterback they're I I'll give I'll 
give them it they're a little bit smaller on the   Line than than they're used to and then they don't 
have like that Central y offensive figure and the   Central defensive figure not having like the 
Emanuel Ross DAV and brutin of the world so you   Know they they're trying to figure that out and 
develop some guys but it's all the beginning of   The Season man it doesn't matter if you lose you 
just it's it's all learning experience so that you   Get put through the grinder now so that you know 
what it feels like later on and you know some some   Programs get that some programs don't you know 
they'll they'll try to pad so that they can have   A few wins for their kids and I get it I get it 
right you see both sides 100% you see both sides   Of it but like you know like you said if you want 
to be the best you got to play the best so you   Know here they are they they first time they've 
ever traveled out of state right first time ever   Like that's an experience in itself for anybody 
that's never been a part of it to take high school   Kids on the road whether you're doing a a day 
trip or whether you're overnighting like it's   An experience and then you know you're competing 
against one of the best teams in Delaware if   Anybody does any research on Middletown um you 
know like just that's all you have to do is just   Look at what they've produced in the past couple 
years and then to now schedule like back right   To right after that game you get back and you 
schedule Bosco from up North who might not be   The BOS of old and everybody thinks is like you 
know not Don BOS anymore but let me just tell   You something like if they still play in that big 
North they still compete every single week like it  

Doesn't matter so you know last year they played 
Bergen right and then and uh you know they've   Played seaten Hall prep so you can see coach Lang 
what his method to the madness is and especially   Now with that parochial be being totally revamped 
with all a lot of those new teams in there now   It's not it's no longer a you know a three-headed 
horse race with you know with just you know deul   RBC and uh St Thomas in there like now you're 
going to throw in some other big hammers and   You're going to have to compete down the road 
and down the stretch and and I think he does a   Great job up there with his program people can say 
what they want about public private and all that   But you know he still has a great program that 
does what they're do and I'm tell 0 and2 is is   Not any indication of like what they are as a team 
yeah I think he's it seems like he's trying to get   More into that like they do reload like they're in 
between the reload and rebuild kind of thing it's   Like a Reload but you still have to develop those 
guys right like he like and every other you can't   Just have hammers across the board every single 
year sometimes you got to go with some younger   Guys got great great freshman group kids that came 
in so I I you know it's obviously you know we all   Know Mike um but I think what he's really done is 
I I like that he's taken that on and I think I do   Too what what dere Derek said is really true like 
listen Don BOS St Peters Prem all those schools of   Bergen Catholic St Joe's like even if those 
schools are going five and five in in a year   I don't know if they still going a meat grinder 
Del Barton they all play each other so when you   Be those schools and then you play an out of state 
game um I I think it starts to really now they're   Going to go in the shore conference schedules to 
those guys who are like oh are they that they're   Gonna probably find out that they're pretty good 
real quick real quick not to mention like I don't   Know you could probably do some research and say 
when's the last time RBC started a season 0 and   Two so if you think those guys aren't packing a 
little bit of an extra punch this week like it   Is what it is but you know so like I said it's 
just I don't think other people understand the   Strength of schedule that those guys up north play 
every how about um when you when you see like so   Antonucci obviously stepped down and that's where 
the town I live in um after what 30 years I guess   Of being a head coach bu building a mega 
Powerhouse at at Middletown South literally   He's the person that built the program you know 
um they had some success here there before him but   Literally the monster amount of success was in his 
years almost pretty quickly from the time he took   Over in in the 90s like as a as a young coach 
you know as they did the research on it it you   Know he he had a lot of success pretty quickly 
and then obviously you know the the NOA Moreno   Years you know 2015 I think it was also when they 
W they were ranked number one in the whole state   Of most recently right as a public school like 
that's crazy so so what what like what are you   Seeing going on over there because Mid North oh 
by the way has a a fantastic coach who coached in   The NFL for many years quietly over there you 
know trying to continue to build that program  

So what what have you heard about stuff like over 
on the South Side so so obviously he's gonna need   To build uh you know his own culture around it for 
sure it's you know you can't just try to replicate   You got to do your own thing um I kind of I can 
kind of attribute this one to what I'm seeing   Across the shore is this little and and this is 
across Sports as well there's almost this little   Bit of rebalance going on I've noticed where so 
so maybe the top team was here and the bottom team   Was here now the top team's here and the bottom 
team is here where they're still up here and   They're still you know right they're all kind of 
of equilibrium a little bit and I'm kind of seeing   That in a lot of different ways so I think a spot 
like Middletown South they'll have guys what the   The tough thing for him going in there is going 
to be this you know some of the recruiting stuff   That goes on now and pulling kids out of school in 
middle school and sending them to different places   And and being able to choose where you want to 
go and you know all that stuff's going to be a   Challenge for any coach but up in Middletown 
when you're close to RBC when you're close cl   To St John vien and you're close to some of these 
other spots that it's got to be tough it's got to   Be hard to keep to keep a kid engaged and it's 
you know you saw you see it happen in college   Where it's like coaches just didn't want to deal 
with some of that stuff they stepped down so um   It I don't know like where the power dynamics 
exactly lie in that respect but he's he's really   Just gonna have to assert a culture and uh that 
that's his own culture correct yeah no doubt about   It obviously the other school that's on on the uh 
around the Ben you know Rumson which is just kind   Of not not lost the beat at all like and like 
you said even if they lose some games early on   Because they're running the you know the gamut as 
a smaller School playing against bigger schools   Always but you could just see like they always 
have like some gigantic run the powerful running   Back some gigantic quarterback who who could who 
could sling it you know if they let him sling it   40 times he could but they don't you know like 
it's one of those things right cuz that's not   Their philosophy but you see the guy all of 
a sudden he throws a vertical pass down the   Field you know like a DI like who I didn't throw 
like that like just open the game up I wonder if   They would score 45 points every game but they got 
you know big big line usually big lineman good ath   Decent a decent to really good athletes everywhere 
and a multitude like I would say maybe maybe the   Biggest maybe the biggest Public School roster as 
far as number of kid oh my God they're always 20   To 20 like 20 to 20 there's dudes everywhere right 
like you you kind of you're like does this whole   Like they're a group too does this whole school 
play football because every single one it's like   Nonstop they're just a wave of dudes coming out 
of that locker room it's incredible it's I think   It's a town culture around it because when you 
have when you have the same like playbooks and   Uniforms and logos and all that stuff all the way 
down to the Youth Level they come up through it   And there's there's a pride around it so I think 
yes like that that pride is really what develops  

And and what creates that and rumon man like I 
really I like you know I liked otou coming in the   Last year because I'm I'm a big fan of the whole 
multisport thing I know certain people will say   Otherwise but to me I don't know if it's a money 
grab because they want them to pay your travel   Whatever but uh otou was like a phenomenal pitcher 
like his sophomore year I guess he or no yeah   Sophomore year he threw he had like 22 Innings 
like one earn run something stupid and so I really   Liked him going into last year and then he was a 
little banged up like I know his foot bothered him   And I think that kind of threw him off that's you 
know the interception numbers were higher he was   At like 13 interceptions last year um but man saw 
him a couple times last year and I saw him week   One versus Point burrow that is a different kid 
he took a ginormous step forward he's he's legit   He's going to be he's going to be something uh 
for sure and only a junior this year rumson's   Going to have a good year yeah there there's 
there's no doubt about it it's I I remember   Seeing him I think it was last year Derek when 
you were were at vien and you guys skirmished   Him and I saw him I was like oh my God that kid 
and he was only a sophomore at the time you know   Like you can definitely attest to the culture 
thing too right because when we were coaching   At the street or at the school down the street 
like it was just one thing after another with   Like you know the school up the street and the 
purple school and this and that and it's like   You just could tell that like sports really matter 
throughout that entire building male female like   Whatever it is but that football program you know 
even losing you know the old man right and like   Now the younger guy like his son taking over and 
whatnot and just the whole culture itself like it   Is just so intact and so like tight-knit that like 
and I always say winning breathes winning right   Like when you've like you said when it's the same 
uniforms it's the same stuff over and over and   Over and you've just won you know when you go down 
14 nothing it's like oh we're going to win we're   Okay you know what I mean whereas a lot of teams 
just put their head in the tank and it's over   But that's like it's just a culture there and in 
high school football like culture wins a lot and   I think his I think his receivers are better this 
year too not not that his receivers were bad last   Year by any stretch of the mean but Nick I mean 
Nick Thomas he's he he he gives me like that that   Bill bich receiver look you know he just kind of 
everywhere all over the field fast good hands like   You know he had that 62 yard catch to pretty much 
open up the game but that that kid was everywhere   So um he's they have a lot of weapons they do and 
then and remember another year of starting in the   System right like it's just like when you play 
games that game experience that stuff matters   Right like as a sophomore to jump in there and 
be the QB at Rumson like that's a lot to put on   Your shoulders I don't care who you are right so 
another year settled into it and at the end of the   Day you know they're going to play defense smack 
you around and they're going to they're not going   To commit penalties so they're going to play clean 
games where look if they're in it with two minutes  

To go like I'm pulling for the purple guys like 
that's just how it's going to work because they're   Used to winning yeah but don't sleep on point bur 
though too that's another they're absolute machine   Yeah so triple option right I I I my f my first 
Year's of coaching when I coach battle Brook and   North Jersey we ran the same exact offense that 
they run at at Point burrow you know the uh uh the   Navy trip it's that Navy triple option that that 
midline um uh the Double Wing and it's and it's a   Killer a killer killer killer killer and and uh 
you know raron was running a vers a version of   That obviously as well um but it's a when you're 
really rolling on that you got you know when you   Have the most times people do it because they 
originally don't have the lineman correct what   Ends up happening a lot of times in that offense 
is once you start to have some success because   You don't have those linemen all of a sudden you 
start to get those linemen who like to just run   Block because it's over I always think like if 
I was a lineman what's more fun pass Pro or run   Block right run blocking is more fun you know 
it's just in in you because you see the NFL and   You see College football guys throwing the ball 
a lot you know kids think oh pass pass blocking   No run blocking is fun because it's basically you 
get to you get to hit the guy Drive the ball guy   Off the ball and and and get pancakes so once 
that mentality gets in there and point burrow   Has done a fantastic job of doing that and they SE 
continue to refill I also think that's one of the   Nice things about that offense is there's those 
guys that you need like the wings like that's   Your fast guy your your your fullback is your 
guy that's going to continue just to plow ahead   Get yards and your quarterback can be primarily an 
athlete a runner who is a functional passer right   And you most high schools can find those three 
guys skill-wise and then everything else becomes   A bonus yep and and and uh I uh I think Point 
burough has done a phenomenal job of leveraging   That and over the years continuing to build on it 
the first it was up and down up and down and just   Now it's just rolling uh talk talk about Point 
burrow um yeah so with that it's like even when   You know what play is coming every time doesn't 
matter uh yeah I don't know it doesn't matter that   They can still do it and obviously they still put 
up the points they still had the big runs the you   Know the only thing is I I just there was a couple 
times that I wish that they would just be like all   Right in this situation like let's let's fake 
him out let's do a play action or something you   Know something a a little bit different if I feel 
like if they could find a little bit more balance   You know it doesn't have to like it can be like 
8020 instead of you know 9010 and I I feel like   They could uh that that could take them really far 
because you're going to prepare for Point burrow   The same way every time and right you're either 
gonna stop or not and Rumson uh didn't stop him   In the beginning they then they found a way to 
stop him for a couple drives but their offense   Was too explosive to keep up with um but and 
point burough still fought back like it was a g   Like you know it what even on that sideline like 
you said they didn't think it was over when it was  

The third quarter like they were still they were 
still grinding it out and that's because you know   With that style offense like you said you're just 
doing it you're o repetitive over and over and   Over and then Coach sa man like that guy just the 
culture around him the passion around him and the   The uh like the efficiencies of how he operates 
that's what makes that program go I think that's   A great way to put it is efficiency right because 
if if anybody's ever seen them practice like they   Practice and I'm telling you when it is structured 
I mean you're out there it looks like a college   Practice from you know everybody knows their 
responsibilities everybody knows where they're   Going what they're doing they're moving they're 
flying around hot like you know this spot to that   Spot it is run like a college program and you can 
see that his players they care like they're not   Just passionate about you know the the the burough 
on their jerseys right like they're passionate for   Their coach they play for him and and like I said 
High School football is a lot of emotion and it's   A lot of those types of things with the culture 
that's instilled and and they have it over there   And they just continue year after year you know 
the names change a little bit right but it's the   Same system and they're doing the same stuff maybe 
something else is just highlighted here or there   And and they also play some good teams right like 
they're not just like going along with whatever   Like they got to pack punches and take punches 
every single week and like you said I think that   Prepares guys for the playoffs when it comes 
down to it because now you've played some of   Those hammers you know all season and like you 
said like if you get in the playoffs at 5 and   Five but you've played you know you've been in 
those five losses like you're going to be in a   In a very good spot to make a deep run here in you 
know in November Scott I'll tell you I'll tell you   What's interesting about that because you brought 
up the N you know instead of 9010 a little 8020   Right so having coached in it that was my first 
literally my first assistant coaching job and the   The Saddlebrook at the time was a Powerhouse in 
that exact offense that's what they ran um and I   Came in as they were power so the my first year 
coaching we were we were 10 we were 10 and one   Okay we were 10-0 and we lost to Glenrock and 
that was always our traditional P battle like   We'd beat them in the in the regular season 
then they would get us a lot of times in like   The semifinals uh of the playoffs and what was 
interesting was that used to be our exact debate   As assisted coaches with the guy who was our 
offensive coordinator who was a phenomenal I mean   A phenomenal coach right and uh the head coach 
was Darren white who was who's a also a legendary   Softball coach Darren was very was a CEO kind of 
head coach and the coordinators really ran ran   Their kind of deal and what was really interesting 
was because we had two phenomenal receivers that   First year and then you know we ran a the next 
year we had this unbelievable running quarterback   Back which Derek knows um but but we had two 
phenomenal receivers and our quarterback that year   Was actually a fantastic passer but our system 
was so was warranted so structured and it was  

The offensive coordinator son this is what made 
it so wild right he would think he would want to   Be letting him Chuck it all over right yeah well 
the what I'm saying is the officer coordinator's   Son was a solid Runner good runner but he was a 
phenomenal pass passer but because the system was   The system and the way that we practiced it and 
everything like that so heavy on on um the pitch   You know the pitch phase the the dive phase and 
the reads and then the passing game was kind of   An afterthought we I was the guy who coached the 
receivers at the time and we used to always joke   That like you know listen if a ball comes our 
way we'll go get it but like you know we would   We would try to count how many pancakes we got as 
St stalking people versus how many catches because   We had more pancakes than we did C right but um 
that that was kind of where I was but it's it's   Interesting you say that because that used to be 
our debate and when we lost in the semi-finals   That was like a a big like oh you know maybe we 
should have threw the ball because we had these   Two six foot one inch receivers were phenomenal 
like you throw it up they go get it you know kind   Of guys um and and it was always the debate and 
even the next year when we had this kid Anthony   Pomo who was like a 10700 meter dash kid right 
but he also could sling it it was always the   Debate like when you got in these battle back 
and forth games when another team was basically   As good as you could you open it up a little bit 
more because you had the dudes to do it and so   It's interesting to hear you bring that up because 
but it's really because of the practice that's why   I really learned from all of it is because the way 
you practice that triple option way the system is   So structured I think it's very difficult for 
an offensive coordinator to really go complet   Completely out of the box and off of that system 
and start to sling it a little more because it's   Like you're drawn back to if I just stick to my 
knit and do what I'm gonna do I'm gonna score 28   Points every game you know and if I somehow 
start throwing well all of a sudden I'm at   Seven of 14 and my my head coach starts looking 
at me or you know or the fans are looking at me   Like why aren't you just doing what you do it's 
a it's an interesting dilemma and you you see it   Even with the um the Armed Forces academies with 
Army Navy Air Force right they run it they run it   They run it but every time they've like some of 
them have gotten a little bit out of it and then   All of a sudden they've lost a few more games 
than they used to lose and it's I don't know   It's a weird it's a phenomenal offense but it's 
a weird quandra you get into like if you wanted   To throw more do you do you take away about how 
good you run that that triple option yeah it's   Like that the the value of that three to four 
yard game every time Stacks up and then if you   Throw and you don't get the three yard game four 
yard game then may it eats at it I guess yeah and   And do you have enough passing plays in the system 
like like uh um that can get you the yards to make   Up for that right because a lot of stuff is off 
play action you're going down the field um you   Know or some sort of a boot off of it and it's 
not of a it's not it's it's not a ton of like I  

Don't know you know roll out where you're running 
comebacks or Cur girls and you're not doing that   All day long you're not practicing it all day 
long either so you're practicing passing very   Little right so but it's very very I think you 
brought up a great point because I I I having   Coached in it and knowing what it felt like you 
always had this feeling like wow we have the guy   That can do it you know I wonder why we don't 
more but I always thought it really had a lot   To do with the system I don't I don't want to BL 
her a point but the point bur is so interesting   Because of the system they run and and they've 
had a lot of success with it and that's and and   Those kids are hammers like you look at them you 
know majority of those guys are in the weight room   On the regular like they might not like you know 
with the like the ABS and all but they are strong   As oxes man like they every single one of them you 
know the big thighs the thick bodies like you can   Just tell that the weight room is an extremely 
important factor in what they do and in coach's   Program like that's just kind of how it is and 
those guys across the board are strong as hell   Well after the I I was actually out of practice 
this summer and at the end of it practice was   Over offensive linemen all of them as a group out 
on the field doing sprints like practice is over   They they don't have to do it but they're doing 
it so I mean they put in that work culture wins   Culture wins every time T TR North TR North we we 
had this a little Scott and uh you know we know   We know their quarterback obviously very well uh 
just like we know know the vien quarterback well   Very well played in our club club team um so uh 
you know but TJ takes over and it it doesn't seem   Like they miss a beat you know they they they 
look they still got tons of athletes everywhere   They obviously have a phenomenal line um you 
know they have maybe the best one of the best   Linemen in the country uh what do you seeing with 
t TR North this year yeah I felt good about them   Coming in um really because just because of being 
at that RBC game last year I know they lost it but   Before the remarkable Ross catch the you know and 
the and the crazy ending that ensued I mean TJ was   The story of that game I mean he was phenomenal 
and so like even like if Michael was down for   Any reason it didn't matter so coming into this 
year you know another year older and the program   Being in his control no I had no negative thoughts 
about him coming in and he's you know I talked to   Him a little bit um at the seven on sevens and he 
you can just tell he's dialed in he's ready to go   And then and like the thing thato was underrated 
I think with Tom River North because they always   Had the Micah Fords and that you know they have 
the exposive offense is the value of their defense   And some of those guys there there's guys there 
like you know like nir Jackson that kid he might   Not have a lot of stats but that's because he's 
a blanket nobody's throwing his way like he's   He is so good on defense and so underrated he's 
a threat in all three phases of the game if he   Wants to be right he could be a wide out DB and a 
return threat every single time he's what we call   Like one of these like you know a big play guy 
right like anytime anytime he touches the ball  

He has the ability to go the distance every single 
time no matter what the play call is I don't know   How's I don't know how he's uncommitted I mean I 
don't know how everybody's not trying to to get   Him I mean he's just he's phenomenal yeah you 
you don't know maybe there's some other things   Academically could be maybe maybe I I don't want 
to yeah yeah yeah yeah but he is athletically and   What he could do on the field are um is absolutely 
phenomenal and and uh you know and and obviously   They have morai and and you know and they they've 
got a multitude of of they seem to be able to to   Replenish the the athlete fold whereas some of the 
other tr schools are not able to do that as well   I can can you because this is my ignorance I 
because I really just you know obviously I've been   Down here seven years in the shore or eight years 
in the shore but I I don't really know much as we   Get towards like Ocean County as well right talk 
to me a little bit about like how is is it that   Coach coach is Oz is such a a great coach is that 
like and his brothers coach with him they've been   Able to build a phenomenal culture and the others 
have you know gone up and down there Dynamics   There that are different in each school I I really 
just don't know that I'm asking at purely at   Ignorance yeah so well first foremost yeah he's 
he's an incredible coach that's you know hands   Down but you know the history of Toms River being 
that they all were powerhouses in in all sports I   Mean I grew up you know I was I was a mid-2000s 
uh kid so you know Tom D East in every sport Tom   Rer North Tom all they were all just phenomenal in 
in everything and I kind of I kind of get the feel   That a lot of it has to do with just the 
generalized funding of how the Tom fiver schools   Are right now is is what's kind of creating some 
of these like paradoxes where because like even   Like Tom dor North soccer they got like 80 kids 
coming out for that soccer program they're great   But then on the baseball side they couldn't even 
feel the freshman team so you know there's just   These like weird Dynamics where um so it almost 
seems like certain kids Target different Tom's   River schools for different things you know it's 
like I'm going here for football or if I play this   Board I'm going here as opposed to it just being 
like like it that Tomas River really you call it   Like the the 90s Tom rer mentality um it it kind 
of seems like that's that's there's a big shift   There uh it's not it's not the same way you can 
pick where you go Tom's River or or it's kind   Of like I mean there there's lines and all that 
stuff but I mean is if you want to get it done   Done right right they find the way to get to where 
they need to be right and obviously Oz has built   A culture there at Tom's River so player that 
becomes the place that um you're you're me if   You're really good at football and and one of the 
things I I know just because I'm in youth football   Now over in Middletown Tom's River now is like 
consolidated all their youth programs so all those   Kids play together um as they're coming up so I my 
guess is that if one program is really phenomenal   Like Tom's River North has been that they start to 
think to themselves if I'm going to go to public   School this is where I want to play football I 
I'm guessing I really don't know for sure but I  

Think that you know when you have all the kids in 
one program they're probably all hanging out with   Each other after a certain point you know what I 
mean so they they start to you know get inin for   Each other Tom's River is really it's it's really 
it's incredible how good they are I mean literally   Um last year they were the one school that could 
really compete with with RBC um and and at that   Level um and it was it it was you know that was 
a phenomenal game um some some other like so   What are some of the uh like other schools that 
you see that are really starting I mentioned you   Know Zack larker obviously being over at Vienna 
the impact he's already had uh over there um with   With aasta and those guys starting out we'll see 
as they get into the meet and their schedule but   He's a phenomenal athlete phenomenal corbor 
we have you know we we saw him saw him live   And they have Dante kagna receiver there and and 
and Abdul at running back so they they obviously   Have some some some weapons over there what what 
schools are you starting to see like that are that   You think are going to be kind of emerging teams 
this year uh well obviously you know you mentioned   Sjv I I still have the I'll admit I still have 
the question mark do I believe the hype or do   I not I'm still feeling that out uh if if Costa 
stays round I think you know obviously obviously   They're on the up and up but the there's a lot of 
young coaches out there too in some of the some of   The uh smaller programs are the ones that aren't 
the big names of the conference that are really   Interesting because because of the cultures that 
they're building and some of the pride into their   Programs you know you've got uh Jarrett pigeon at 
Central and sure they haven't had a ton of success   Yet but the the work that he's putting in and some 
of the stuff that they're doing just the Athletics   Program in general at Central you know I know the 
school has some issues and that's you know that's   A whole different thing but they're really trying 
to create something and build something there so I   See that you got Tommy Farrell over at Manchester 
same thing I mean it's you know the whole it's   Just Manchester thing is is really he's creating 
something he comes from Donovan played there he   Knows what it he knows what it means to win 
and you know look three years in and he's you   Know he's created something tyny down at Pineland 
there's another one right and how how fortunate   Those two play each other this week right like but 
you know they both of them like it's just the like   You said like I to see everybody be successful 
right and then like you said some of these you   Know I guess how people would look at it like oh 
these guys you know it's just what they do they   Just you know they'll go 500 or they lose and 
this and that like perhaps some of these young   Guys and kind of you know like you said the entire 
conference is kind of shifting a little bit and   Dave and I have talked about this with when when 
you're looking at guys like you know antinucci   Stepping down and centino at sure stepping down 
some of these like longtime head coaches within   The conference itself have now stepped down 
and now you're seeing the rise of like some   Of these other younger guys at some of these 
non-traditional Powerhouse programs within the  

Shore itself like now you're starting to see the 
success that that they can have as well right so   It's kind of like a Changing of the Guard a little 
bit you know definitely definitely it's it's   Funny because and it's and I don't know how true 
accurate it's just kind of like a opinion of what   I've seen and this goes across Sports is as as 
some of you know as some of these programs turned   Over you know I'll use Central as the example the 
girl soccer uh program had turned over and you   Know they ended up going and winning uh you know 
South Jersey group 4 last year you know they had   Some major talents but some of some of the those 
things it's like all these schools all the kids   Are the same age yeah some are a little bit bigger 
some are a little smaller but it's there really   Is so much on the ability to to get stuff out of 
them like as a coach you know the the one one of   The coaches I know well uh worked with them he uh 
he said it's like you're a part-time psychologist   Or fulltime psych absolutely and it's like I think 
sometime I think especially now like I grew up in   A little bit of that there was the old school 
mentality some of the new stuff was coming but   It's not you can't just like tell them to grind 
and like don't like w for some reason like when   We were younger it was like water is weak like you 
don't need a water break it's like these kids care   About health and wellness they care about the way 
that the that they're presenting themselves they   Care about uh a lot of different things that 
I think old school guys might not quite get   They don't but if you can tap into it and you can 
kind of embrace some of those different elements I   Think that that's why tyan is such a great example 
you know he's taking a selfie after the games and   All that you know he's he gets that buy in from 
them and it's just trying to get more out of out   Of the athlete and um and then because of that 
they also become a better team and better people   Overall growing up so it's you know it's not even 
about always the recruiting if you just play high   School sports you learn how to be a teammate 
you learn how to be a team member and that that   Carries with you into your whatever job it is it 
doesn't matter what industry it is and I think   That's like what a lot you know everybody wants 
to be a professional athlete but the breakdown   Goes there's like eight million student athletes 
Across America there's 500,000 NCAA athletes and   Then there's like 20,000 professional athletes the 
the odds are not in your favor it doesn't matter   Who you are correct and so it's like use this as a 
tool as an opportunity to to like build something   For yourself and as as a teammate um and and go 
have some fun and win because that's you know W   Winning isn't everything but at the same time 
winning is a lot of fun yeah and for some of   These kids like high school football will be the 
last time they ever put on a helmet you know so   If you're not you know if you're making it a bad 
experience for them they're going to want no part   Of it and they're only going to tell others like 
I don't don't do this right so it's just you got   To stay positive coaching has changed so much 
you know in that in those terms of being you   Know a shrink on top of being whatever else for 
them but you you can't just like Hammer a kid and  

Do all that other kind of stuff and the quote Old 
School mentality of coaching like it doesn't work   With these guys like maybe you have one or two of 
those guys but like you know you got to know your   Players each one of them you got to know what 
buttons to push and not push depending on your   Players you got to know your team right like if 
you know that it's just like teaching you got to   Know how they all learn and all that other kind 
of stuff like a lot of that stuff goes into it   Now you know it's you can't just cookie cutter the 
whole thing and you know you got to be a tough guy   And do all this stuff like that's a part of it but 
it's not all of it yeah well I think that there's   Uh two things I think that uh you know football in 
general there is a tough guy element to it so you   Know in order to have a certain level of success 
you're going to have to be have a certain level of   Physicality in order to be good and I I point 
to Rumson uh as as a place that seems to really   Embrace that as being part of their culture right 
is is that there are physical groups same thing   With po burrow you know there are groups like 
look TR North they under under uh Ford they were   Run the ball downhill right with TJ they're 
doing both they're running and throwing they   Again maybe got a little more finesse sjv may be 
a little more finesse right but it it's it's the   Kind of thing where there's a balance to success 
in in in high school football there's a there's   A group of kids that um are are there that love 
to hit love to be physical there are a group of   Kids that are there that are athletes and um and 
blending all of that is is is I think the ultimate   Like the key and then obviously years put in that 
becomes you know in high school football to me it   It still be culture gets the more time you're able 
to be there and and start to have success the more   You know it builds on on itself and um the more 
people rely in the fact because most a lot of   Kids don't have uh the ability to have stability 
but when they see stability over and over again   They think okay there's an opportunity here for 
Success which is a unique thing that I think is   Happening to Shore and maybe you could talk about 
this I I I don't know if it's a youth movement per   Se but is a turnover movement no doubt about it 
as far as from a coaching St St standpoint with   Respect to football where there's in the last 
couple of years there's been so many jobs that   Have been open very rare before that there was 
almost no jobs open in in the in the shore right   Uh talk about that kind of turnover that you've 
seen and I that could be a partially a guys being   Older and retiring and also partially the game 
changing a little bit with respect to coaching   Talk about some of the stuff you see and you 
may see it in other sports if if you see in that   Coaching turnover is crazy yeah I mean uh well 
just to Quick touch on a point before that is it   It's I guess what it is is like with with it 
it's almost like controlled physicality it's   Definitely a physical game but but to be able to 
harness it and control it you know to be able to   Put everything into that one play but then still 
like respect the game and respect the opponent   That's like you know you used to have like you 
know chotic kids that would just want to run  

People over like they'd run their own guys over on 
the sideline just because they couldn't turn it on   And off so harnessing some of that is I guess a 
little bit of it but with the coaching with the   Coaching turnover like I guess I just I'm not well 
versed on exactly why because I don't because I   Am seeing it and I'm curious I my gut though tells 
me a lot of it has to do with uh with dealing with   Parents I think that just gets that wears on you 
after a while you know my kid should be in or my   Kid should be doing this or that and then with the 
differences of how how the game is played um that   Some of them just get to that point where it's 
like okay like I did this uh there's really know   Up what's the upside for me continuing versus uh 
not continuing so again I don't I can't speak too   Well on it just because I I haven't talked to um 
any of them really directly since but that's just   Kind of the sense that I get I take from it yeah 
it's it's interesting um and like I said like when   I first came down here like I was like one of the 
only new coaches you know and then but within a   Couple years it was all of a sudden it was like in 
the last few years it uh really really turned over   Lot maybe covid had a little bit to do with that 
gave it gave people a taste of like hey if I don't   Have to do this right now I just think also like 
you know the parents are obviously one but two you   Know just now the time that it takes like you're 
no longer a seasonal coach as a football coach   Like it is 365 days a year seven days a week with 
with recruiting and whatnot just because you're   Not not out on the field practicing you know 
in helmets and shoulder pads or game planning   Doesn't mean that you're not working you're still 
with them in the weight room and you're monitoring   Like all the recruiting that's going on or you're 
developing this or you're developing that like if   You're not doing those things then you're going 
to be falling behind and look at the end of the   Day like the pay isn't anything and obviously like 
you don't do this for the pay and whatnot but when   You're working that many types of hours to just 
give something back like you know a weight room   Stiping or something would really entice these 
guys to maybe do a little bit more but who knows   Like I just think there's a totally change within 
football itself that now the time that gets that   Has to get put in to being a football coach like 
it's not a seasonal stipend anymore it is a yearr   Round position and you know you're working 
on a a year-to-year contract too there's no   Real protection for coaches like there's a lot of 
that type of stuff that goes into it where you're   Literally coaching half the year taking care of 
your program babysitting at doing this doing that   And at the end of the day like they could tell 
you in June like hey you're done you're gone   And we're going to bring in somebody new like 
that's just kind of the it is what it is like   That's just what we live in and how we do it 
it's an interesting it's a whole interesting   Dynamic no no no very very uh so I I think you 
you you said tyny is there anybody else that we   Missed that you think are are uh you know you 
talked about pilin you talked about Manchester   Um any other program we talked a little bit about 
any other programs that you think or uh because I  

I I thought wall the first two games were you 
know they they again what's interesting about   The shores you don't know if someone's actually 
down or not because that's one of the interesting   Like there are teams that were on top one year 
and then next year they're in a rebuilding Year   And that happens a lot in public school so I 
don't know exactly all of that but like wall   Seems to you know be doing pretty you know having 
a little rebuilding off of the things that had had   Happened there um and I I think that that that's 
you know pretty interesting and then um there was   Another one that I thought that was doing really 
well uh can I say about wall real quick yeah sure   So wall as as a definitive statement I'll say wall 
football is back okay football is back it's I saw   I you know I saw them this Summer a little bit in 
practice but then I saw the the col's nck game I   Know K's down a little bit but no that that team 
is back they even after the game when they just   Stomped on Colts Neck it was still hey like they 
kicked two field goals and why are we doing that   We need to be like I want to score touchdowns 
I want they pissed it's like they they knew   That they could have been better the the players 
knew they could have been better they it wasn't   Celebratory after the game it was back to business 
we got our you know home opener next week it's   That that program is legit and um yeah it's it's 
there yeah that's awesome I see like Tony crey   Has emerged as a star right and then yeah they've 
got they've got other guys that are emerging as   Stars that Derek boss Derek we Derek boss um 
their sophomore quarterback legit quarterback   Is EXC yes excellent quarterback and and you 
know it's a place that has obviously has had   A phenomenal tradition you know you go to their 
youth program they're always very good you know   So um it it it's a place that's really it's it's 
great to see that wall wall is back in the mix   There um you you know having is better when is 
good you know what I mean like and things like   That when when some of these teams are relevant 
and like you know competitively like cuz look to   Me it's a very like ultra competitive conference 
itself like every team is pretty good right like   I would match up some of these teams to to some 
of the teams across the state in general On Any   Given Saturday or Friday night you know whatever 
um but like when certain teams are better it the   Entire conference gets better like for the 
the the sake of it so it's good to see that   They're back up and kind of in the flow of things 
too I think Howell could be an interesting one too   Right so they got a big one against brick memorial 
this week you know coach has done a great job over   There like rebuilding that and and making it 
something a big group five program right and   Now they gotta play brick memorial who's two and 
0 and believe me they can those kids can play too   So that should be a good one nice little early 
season two and0 verse 2 and 0 like who's going to   Come out of it type gig so that's I like that one 
and Hell might have the best quarterback the whole   Shore conference right so you know uh that dude 
yeah I mean he's different yeah he he's got that   Next level arm for sure right out of the gate so 
it's it's and he might be a better lacrosse player  

From what I hear like you know he's an absolute 
studed both so uh that should be enticing right   Two Towns right next to each other right you got 
sjv right there and and Hell going there and with   Another new first year head coach right who's done 
a great job of taking something that was built   A certain way and tweaking it to work with 
what his roster has and that's just you know   Who sees where who knows where that goes the the 
quarterback thing is is funny okay because that's   Got to be like he's got the genes element of it 
like the DNA element of it you know because even   His even his sister was a stud a or is a St Hooper 
right basketball right basketball yeah yeah yeah   Yep yeah Allison I think is her name yeah so 
yeah yeah she she's she's solid that yeah just   Everything about that family is just they're 
they're just full of studs so bread and then   And then to be able to take that and actually 
like put it into a team system that's yeah you   Know some kids can be athletes but if you can't if 
you can't put it together then it doesn't matter   It's wasted talent but I don't think it's wasted 
Talent there no and he's already he was already   The guy last year doing a little bit of that a 
little bit of this and and having to do other   Things too within that system and what they did 
and they ripped off you know what were they nine   And0 something like that like they ripped off an 
incredible season doing something different right   And now here comes a whole new regime and like 
let's go let's see kind of how they roll with it   And go and like you said they're playing against a 
pretty good brick memorial team that you know like   They can play so it's a good early season like 
let's test how the waters are or or I'm sorry uh   You know they're played sjv who look who wears the 
hype right like Is that real I know that you know   Abdul is T is an absolute phenomenal running back 
like my man is like he is a different level player   100% the roster is is is excellent so we'll see 
right and and that the little hell sjv being in   The same town thing I don't think I think that's 
kind of under you know underappreciated in a way   Like because that's a rivalry that I think is a 
little bit bigger than people realize in terms   Of like literally being in the same place um and 
you know it's going to be a live Val atmosphere   So that should be a really good one tonight too as 
well the whoever the the best defense is going to   Win that game because that's what had last year it 
was all the shutouts if you think about it I mean   Sure the offense was good and they proded I think 
they ripped off like six or six or six or seven   Shutouts in a row at one point last year yeah 
something like that and they and yeah that defense   Was good but then obviously you know they were in 
a little bit of a a a battle with Long Branch you   Know it was you know 30 you know mid-30s so they 
definitely need to figure out the whole if they   Can bring that what they had defensively back 
and get that stuff rolling and but I could see   It being the same thing it could be a little bit 
of a shootout here with uh with sjv oh absolutely   And believe me anybody who's been in the short 
conference for a couple years talking about hell   Being in a shootout is kind of funny to think 
about right with the changing of the card coming  

From what they've been the last couple years so 
it should be a good one well it Scott it's been   Fantastic um Shore Sports network uh go there I I 
I know I noticed the like rebranding going on as   Far as color scheme and all that kind of stuff uh 
re really cool to see that that uh start starting   To get involved and updated um uh and uh you 
know anytime you want to come on and talk I   Mean any season even though obviously we do a lot 
of football stuff but um we we'll we'll we'll talk   Anything Sports any time so talk about it and 
obviously we live in the shore so it's it's you   Know it's familiar with kids that we know you know 
so it's it's it's great to talk uh sports with   You and um you know we we we love your content 
you know continue yeah it's it's it's a great   Great thing and like I said it's Unique you know 
it's a unique thing I wish more you know you know   You see a lot you see a lot of it in the South 
what you're doing here is what you see in the   In the South meaning the southern part of America 
right they do have a lot more of these like local   Networks and whether it's social media or websites 
that are following them what you're doing you're   Bringing that that Sports element so everyone can 
really get enjoyment like you said the parents   Getting the opportunity to have the enjoyment uh 
of seeing their own kids covered which I always   Thought you know back in the old days in the 
newspapers and you you you know this well too   Was the greatest thing that they've basically done 
away with where I my favorite used to be you get   The box you look at the box scores of every game 
right and you have the box scorer who scored and   There was nothing better than seeing your name 
your friends name on there you know and and and   Uh um seeing every score on there you could see 
a team you played right and that's what you're   Bringing back uh and and it's it's just online 
it's not no longer in the newspaper it's online   And I I think that that's so important man like 
we I I that was my favorite thing as an athlete   I'm sure Derek would say the same thing you'd open 
up the paper the next morning and it was football   You know whe basketball season you know for me 
like track or B I was a track athlete like I'd   See the times of what I ran in in in the paper you 
know baseball players would see what they did you   Know so wrestlers and I think the fact that you're 
doing that you put it it's in a digital format and   That's how everything is is absolutely phenomenal 
and it's you know it's definitely kudos to you and   What you're doing we're we're behind 100% yeah man 
well the other quick the other quick piece to it   Too is uh is by like I said creating that Hub so 
one of the hardest things even like last year when   I took this thing was just finding like what the 
actual schedule is like there was no centralized   Short conference schedule so I literally this 
summer was it'd be like 1:00 in the morning   In the middle of July and I'm combing through 
trying to find schedules and and porting it all   In and and creating these rosters like even just 
like basic information like that that's we have   That all now so yeah it's cool because now we can 
just that schedule is actually like a scoreboard   Function so I can go in type the scores in and now 
that's now that's showing up so you can see that  

The standings populate automatically like so it's 
kind of like taking you know it's a little bit of   Some of what nj.com is doing but not relying on 
the coaches to do it well you know I'm plugging   It in that's awesome that and that's best thing 
about it you're not you're take I this was the   Thing you know as a coach coach in North Jersey 
right obviously coach down here the thing that   Was the hardest thing was that you would have to 
and North Jersey just was oh you would call in the   Scores and then they wanted you to put in online 
and I used to be like uh do I put it you have to   Give them the St where do I put it and if I you 
know some of the technology wasn't always the   Easiest to use right yeah so you you relying on 
coaches who have all these things on their plate   Take the more you take off their plate right and 
more they're gonna give you information from them   And and get all that that that info literally like 
I the old days I'm going way way back okay here   When basically because my father uh was a coach 
for you know almost 60 years and the old days   They used to call you okay to get your stats not 
you you know then they put it on you to fill it in   But they used to call you we would get you know 
like my coaches would get a call the game would   End a reporter would call him and say okay uh you 
know what was your score by quarters you know what   Was your who was your top players who's the other 
team's top players who scored for for each team   Right and that even though it's there was still 
some of it on the coach right but it was a lot   EAS easier because the guy called him up the coach 
didn't have to worry about it if it was a home you   Know uh the game yeah so you know an injury and 
oh my God I forgot to call on the score and then   The next morning if you if you forgot to call on 
the score you know who's calling you immediately   The parents are like where's the score where's the 
stats right so so that that was what was great is   How they used to do it so as the more you do 
those kind of things that's my plug for take   That continue to take those things the coach's 
plat and I think it just goes through the roof   Because um those guys you know they get on board 
with it then all the parents are on board with it   And all you know the kids obvious the kids are on 
board with it no matter what you know what I mean   Yeah but but you get all those other parties on 
board with it goes through the roof so definitely   Scott thanks so much for coming on appreciate 
it man we'll see you soon we'll have you back   Soon anytime you want to come on reach out to 
Derek we'll we we'll be glad to talk about big   Game happened something you cover something that 
was phenomenal that you want to talk about we'll   Bring you on all I appreciate it thanks guys for 
having me thanks take care bye see that was great   Great great great episode you're 100% right though 
because if even like if you look at the website   Now into what he developed like you can go to 
any team page and then click on a roster and   Then there's like you know like it's just more 
media Savvy I guess like you said like you're   Not clicking on something and it's going to a you 
know oh this is a broken URL or whatever like he's   Just you know and look it sounds like you know 
the right reasons you know it's not about him  

It's all about like whatever covering other sports 
I think that's too like we know football rules the   Roost kind of but you know to get out there and 
go with those other sports like those girls and   And dudes like they love that stuff too right like 
everybody deserves their own little piece of you   Know celebrity lifestyle I guess as a high school 
student because you don't get it you know there's   Those National hubs like Max Preps right that do 
a great job broad stroke nationally right right um   And those that want to be involved in that aspect 
of it but most people care locally right and that   Is the short conference right 95% of the PE and 
and even deeper like their own town or their own   Program right so some people obviously like people 
who like us care the whole short C how many times   Like like look at all these care about their team 
every Alabama has their own thing Georgia thing   Ruers their own like this is what because you 
yeah like you can get you can get that Insider   Information right like I mean look you can even 
look like when we were growing up how else can you   Get it if you're not local 100% unless you have 
somebody on the team and you're talking to a dad   Or whatever like you know that's not like this is 
like you said like Grandma and Grandpa are out in   Arizona living their life but they still want 
to see what Jimmy's doing back here playing for   His high school team or hey I've relocated to 
Tennessee but like I still come from this town   In the shore like what's going on like they want 
that type of stuff that localized whatever look   At how many subscribers are to like you know 
the Georgia Bulldog you know.org whatever it   Is right like those little individual media sites 
like they get a lot of clout and then you can get   That Insider information that maybe somebody else 
doesn't get cuz it's just so broad right and like   You know you're talking about a nice little 
40 whatever 43 team I think it is 44 team sh   Conference that's like cover this right whereas 
up north you know we had like when we were growing   Up right you had the Bergen County you had Bergen 
Record you had the Star Ledger um you know you had   The Daily Record which was like Morris count right 
they covered counties right in little and that   Was better coverage so let's do it try it this way 
like why not like that's what these guys want it's   Really cool there's no doubt about it it's very 
cool and it's very important um and it it's it's a   Thing that um uh the families totally like I mean 
oh God come on man they love this like this is we   See parrots like just look at the stuff we do when 
we post pictures or videos of our 7 on S content   Or our flag content like they love this stuff 
man like this is what gets and and and and like   You know as a parent of course like I want to see 
little Jimmy out there like doing his thing right   Like I want to re like show that kind of stuff 
like this is important man like there's a reason   That even in the the highest levels of sports in 
our major sports NBA n NFL all that other stuff   They have to sit down after a win or a loss in a 
press conference and they have to talk to these   People that are going to deliver the information 
to the masses right so why can't we do the same   With high school sports there there's no doubt 
I I agree and and that's what makes this great  

So um until next time that that was great we got 
maybe we should make that a weekly spot we could   Yeah we could do something like every Frid hour 
maybe we'll pick like a couple games and like kind   Of bring them on and do whatever two feature games 
you know like what are the two games that were the   Big games this week that you saw and then hey what 
else went on in the week give us like the rundown   Like was there a big volleyball game was there 
a big field hockey game like give us a rundown   I mean cuz look to be honest I'd like to kind of 
see a little bit more of that stuff because we   Don't know that world right I don't yeah I mean 
hon because I now have a daughter that could   Possibly be playing one of those Sports and I need 
to figure out what the hell's going on because I   Sure as I don't know what to do with the field 
hockey stick dude like oh yeah well yeah sure   I'm sure yeah that's uh it's a whole different 
uh animal right so but yeah I think you're   100% right I think that um bring being able to do 
something that gets them on weekly or bi-weekly   You know every other week or something that that 
gets that um because it really is um first of all   It's interesting that to to uh note what are the 
things that are going on like who's doing what   And he's boots on the ground right he's boots on 
the ground it's and it's hard to you know like   You could read but you really don't know like 
right you don't know the true like you know   It's just like when somebody sends a text message 
if they send it with no you know punctuation are   You pissed are you happy are you what like you're 
guessing right like right so so he could I mean   Literally would we have known anything about wall 
if he wasn't like oh no they're back like oh okay   No we know we know about the guys that we know 
but we don't know we don't know you know I about   The quarterback I didn't know that much about him 
right I know he's a good player but I didn't know   The the intimate details of it right just right 
there's only so much you can um that you seems   Like he's done a very good job of like bouncing 
around to every Camp I believe he visited every   Camp he did head shot for every single like he did 
all that stuff on his own so that he could kind   Of like like he's implementing a lot of the stuff 
himself like hopefully as it continues to grow he   He can kind of like you know delegate and whatnot 
so he doesn't get too overwhelmed with it because   I'm sure thing really starts running like yeah I 
bet you it's going to be a lot yeah my guess is   It probably is already already probably somewhat 
overwhelming you know but um but that I I think   That's I think that's the the the part of it and 
um I think it's really really interesting to see   Um what will happen there because I agree the site 
was like before before he's really evolved this   The site was it was brutal juice brutal you know 
so right and that's coming from someone who does   This kind of stuff you know what I mean like I 
would go on there and I had websites forever dude   You know yeah yeah and I'm I'm sure I'm a culprit 
of it myself but um but uh but it's um you know   It's it's just one of those things that um you 
know you want you want to get that information and   The more that gets better uh the better off it you 
know I think it'll be but you know it's it's it's  

Really really it's cool to see um it's it's one of 
those things that uh is only going to get better   In my opinion and everybody really loves the idea 
oh God yeah yeah that they can that they can um   Get information on on their team on a player 
on the family member and it will hold people   Accountable right like if you know like he said do 
you know how hard it was to just find everybody's   Schedule like that's ridiculous to me like guys 
that's like the bare minimum of what should be   Done like send the right schedule send the right 
times send the right location so everybody's on   The same page like now if everybody's doing it 
and now all of a sudden you're the Oddball out   And you're not doing it like okay well I better 
get on board and send these guys like the right   Right plus if you also do right by coaches 
athletic programs all that kind of stuff now   It's all just going to keep rolling in a positive 
way and you kind of do your thing right like so I   Think he's got a good thing as long as it stays 
you know and continues which I think he will   Continue to just kind of move forward and and do 
his thing it' be awesome to see it like because I   I thoroughly enjoy you know the coverage and just 
to kind of like I said these kids work hard enough   They deserve a little love there's no doubt about 
it you know there there's no doubt about it and   I think that's an important important thing that 
they continue to get um to get progress in there   Like I said this might be the only time they're 
ever highlighted like this in their lives like   Hopefully not because they go out to do real 
go you know big time great things but hey who Knows no no doubt about it no no doubt 
about it all right well until till next   Time next week all right we we'll 
go from there let's let's sign up

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